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[The Worst Gamer]

Not necessarily. Scandinavia isn't snowy in summer, so it's likely that Skyrim isn't either. And I don't know if Tamriel is far north enough for glaciers. Also, Daggerfall was set in high rock and snow was only seen in the winter season, if I recall correctly. High rock is on the same latitude as Skyrim, so it may be colder, but will probably not be a barren arctic desert.

I'd love it if they did a dynamic snow generation every time the game went into winter. That'd be absolutely amazing.

But, I doubt they will. And it will, almost certainly, be a typical snow place. Even Bruma (I think) was covered in snow all year long, and that was in Cyrodiil.

Remember man, patchwork fantasy maps. Also the fact that Bethesda aren't well known to stick to established canon and you have a typical snowy place.

Also, it'll be like Solstheim.

[Cecilff2]

I thought it was generally accepted that it sunk because the redguards cut the atomos with their swords(splitting atoms)

And by doing so, they destroyed their Tower. Whether it was the atomos-cutting or the Tower-raising that caused the destruction is up for debate and preference. Personally, I am of the opinion that "cutting the atomos" is used as meaning "doing the impossible" rather than referring to nuclear destruction, so I interpret the event according to that. After all, what it actually means is deliberately left unclear.

I dunno, Vivec backed down when he thought Cyrus knew Pankratosword.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cyrus had his moment then, where he had maneuvered the duel from the start: pride. Pride was the Ansu-Gurleht's weakness. "Milord," Cyrus said, "Forgive me my little grace, but I deny your help again. Indeed, I turn my back to it, and betray it, and malign it. That should be familiar to you."

Vivec paused. "It is," he said.

"As should this," Cyrus said, moving to the Pankratosword.

Vivec paused longer. And then he laughed loud. "You would not!"

"I say again, test me."

"You would destroy the home of your ancestors even more? And in the fashion that they had done, which is now forbidden in your hands?"

Cyrus didn't move from his stance.

"All for an Opal which you could never thereafter spend?"

"You would be finished," Cyrus said. "And I would be rid of the one who shamed me. So why wouldn't I? You shouldn't have sent your saints to me, Ansu-Gurleht. I am not much like them at all."

"Cut the atomos and you die, too."

"What, the Barons of Move Like This didn't teach you a countermove to this?" Cyrus said. "Oh, wait, they wouldn't have. The Pankratosword is stricken from the record."

Vivec laughed again. He was delighted. He said, "The things they said about you were true, Redguard, whether you wish to believe it or not."

Vivec bowed his head.

"I make way," he said. "I drop my sword."

Edit: If they stick to previous lore(Haha Cyrodiil is a rain forest), the northern and western parts of skyrim should be fairly temperate.  Only the south and east are mountainous.

[The Worst Gamer]

To me, "cutting the atomos" means "breaking the unbreakable" or "dividing the indivisble", not so much "NEWCLEAH BOOOOMBS".

[Cecilff2]

To me, "cutting the atomos" means "breaking the unbreakable" or "dividing the indivisble", not so much "NEWCLEAH BOOOOMBS".

Every single report of it mentions that it causes great destruction.  It doesn't matter if it is or isn't splitting an atom, the result is pretty much the same.  Hence why it's method was completely stricken from record after Yokuda was destroyed.

[scriver]

I thought it was generally accepted that it sunk because the redguards cut the atomos with their swords(splitting atoms)

And by doing so, they destroyed their Tower. Whether it was the atomos-cutting or the Tower-raising that caused the destruction is up for debate and preference. Personally, I am of the opinion that "cutting the atomos" is used as meaning "doing the impossible" rather than referring to nuclear destruction, so I interpret the event according to that. After all, what it actually means is deliberately left unclear.

I dunno, Vivec backed down when he thought Cyrus knew Pankratosword.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cyrus had his moment then, where he had maneuvered the duel from the start: pride. Pride was the Ansu-Gurleht's weakness. "Milord," Cyrus said, "Forgive me my little grace, but I deny your help again. Indeed, I turn my back to it, and betray it, and malign it. That should be familiar to you."

Vivec paused. "It is," he said.

"As should this," Cyrus said, moving to the Pankratosword.

Vivec paused longer. And then he laughed loud. "You would not!"

"I say again, test me."

"You would destroy the home of your ancestors even more? And in the fashion that they had done, which is now forbidden in your hands?"

Cyrus didn't move from his stance.

"All for an Opal which you could never thereafter spend?"

"You would be finished," Cyrus said. "And I would be rid of the one who shamed me. So why wouldn't I? You shouldn't have sent your saints to me, Ansu-Gurleht. I am not much like them at all."

"Cut the atomos and you die, too."

"What, the Barons of Move Like This didn't teach you a countermove to this?" Cyrus said. "Oh, wait, they wouldn't have. The Pankratosword is stricken from the record."

Vivec laughed again. He was delighted. He said, "The things they said about you were true, Redguard, whether you wish to believe it or not."

Vivec bowed his head.

"I make way," he said. "I drop my sword."

Because it is one hell of a move, and is devastating. I'm not saying it isn't, so I'm not sure what your point is.

[Sergius]

However, I've read that the pankratosword can cause a 120 megaton explosion. What/if canon supports this, I have no idea.

[The Worst Gamer]

The Barons of Move Like This sound like a great jazz group, though.

[Simmura McCrea]

The Barons of Move Like This sound like a great jazz group, though.

Or an odd cover of a Dire Straights song.

[Neonivek]

Anyhow Plotholes in Oblivion is nothing new

I once created an ENTIRE thread where we did nothing but talk about Plotholes

The most plothole inducing quest: Weatherleash

I hope Skyrim has just as many plotholes!

[Sowelu]

Wow.  That whole sequence just reminds me of the Chaos Dunk from Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden.

[userpay]

Hmm noone has Morrowind mods to suggest?

[The Worst Gamer]

Anyhow Plotholes in Oblivion is nothing new

I once created an ENTIRE thread where we did nothing but talk about Plotholes

The most plothole inducing quest: Weatherleash

I hope Skyrim has just as many plotholes!

Huh, what's the plotholes there?

[AntiAntiMatter]

Has no one mentioned the entire city that got cut from the game and replaced by a tiny, quest-specific ruined outpost? 

[Neonivek]

Well if you look closely there is NO possible way the Ogre could have ever entered their house or put that one person in the oven.

Of course it is only a plothole if you assume of course that the ogres were the ones who did it and it wasn't the two guys remembering the event incorrectly (In fact originally I didn't even say it was a plothole in the original topic. I said that obviously the father went insane and murdered the mother blaming it on ogres)

[thegoatgod_pan]

I think the best part about Morrowind was the political and moral ambiguity.  In Oblivion its rah rah save the Empire.  I play Dunmer and Khajiit and I rp--so why would I want to save the emperor--am I a self-hating Khajiit or Dunmer?  Do I like my white-skinned imperial overlords with their imposed gods (which by the way was another b.s. innovation--true religion--I was initially charmed by Morrowinds mix of interesting local faith (but false, if appealing gods) and dull humdrum imperial catholicism (with near-absent gods unless you really rise in their silly herb gathering, fortress-hiding hierarchy). Morrowind starts you up and running--of course you are the Prophesied one!--don't you believe Mr. Cassius, the imperial spymaster?  Surely he has no ulterior motive for manipulating local beliefs into instilling an imperial puppet in place of a prophet! (showed him right when I slaughtered the last imperial in Morrowind with my Daedric Crescent). Try doing that in Oblivion.

Oh and as far as amazing Morrowind mods go: best there is (beats  Oblivion's interactive npc anyday): Antares' Big Mod (http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5892)
 Features include:
Hirelings
1. mark targets for theft or assassination and hire a local to do it---true to canon enough that if you mark a Great House member, Morag Tong will refuse you, even under the table, but freelance assassins will still take you up (esp. great for second thieves' guild quest in Balmora when you have to pick pocket that guy with (at that point in the game) fairly-low sneak).

2. Employ the many scouts chilling around taverns to take you to local areas--tombs, caves etc--perfect short cut for tracking through wilderness at a reasonable price!

3.  Employ the many agents to get you info, and help you join guilds including Morag Tong (the agent tells you to pick up the appropriate book and check Vivec's arena)--perfect for rprs who want to join the assassins, but feel weird just walking into the "secret" base.

Master rewards--available for every guild, but as a highlight---Temple patriarch can mark people as heretics and have them burnt at the stake (no joke), drop a scroll in an area to spawn a party of ordinators in 24 hours, and get almost any temple member to follow him/her.

there is other stuff too, but I love the Antares big mod more than I do most games