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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #150 on: December 08, 2010, 08:23:28 pm »

Is anyone else actually kind of wanting Assange to release the key, just to see the fallout? I mean, if it's the content he deems worthy to use to basically blackmail some of the world's most powerful people, you can bet it would be pretty damn juicy. Getting people fired from office juicy, possibly even complete government overhaul juicy.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #151 on: December 08, 2010, 08:23:40 pm »

Wow.
Is there any better encryption cipher? That sounds pretty unbreakable.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #152 on: December 08, 2010, 08:26:27 pm »

How much would anyone like to bet that the key is part of some completely innocuous file already floating around all over the Internet, just waiting for a WikiLeaks member to identify it?
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #153 on: December 08, 2010, 08:26:49 pm »

it is unbreakable except maybe the will of god or his password file.

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« Reply #154 on: December 08, 2010, 08:30:49 pm »

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The best possible method of cracking the code might be the simplest: Beat it out of him. This is, I swear to God, a real technique, called rubber-hose cryptanalysis. Assange is already in custody--the most efficient way to get his password is, by far, torture. It's also authentic in that it's the only type of cracking you'd actually see in a Bond movie. Sure as hell better than waiting several million years for a brute-force attack, right?
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #155 on: December 08, 2010, 08:31:33 pm »

He could've set up something that's programmed to release the key if noone tells it not to after a certain amount of time (let's say a week) and having a bunch of Wikileaks members who tell it not to every now and again.

Under such a system, a simultaneous mass arrest, or even assassination, of all important Wikileaks members would still result in the release of the password.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #156 on: December 08, 2010, 08:34:24 pm »

Is anyone else actually kind of wanting Assange to release the key, just to see the fallout? I mean, if it's the content he deems worthy to use to basically blackmail some of the world's most powerful people, you can bet it would be pretty damn juicy. Getting people fired from office juicy, possibly even complete government overhaul juicy.

Mostly, I just want to know what that douche thinks counts as "hot" enough to bet his life on.  Not that the stuff already leaked wasn't worth the attention.  But that is exactly the idea, the lynchpin of Assange's safety-plan is the world's insatiable curiosity.  He's quite the showman; this whole business with the rape charges is a testament to just what kind of tizzy he has the political community spinning to.  One way or another though, it will be released - either because of the legal doomsday scenario coming true, or because Assange just can't resist releasing it any long.  Probably if and when he gets something even better to hold hostage.

As I said a few pages back, if he had been caught outside of the public eye, they could have done anything they wanted to him and made up any kind of story to justify it.  Sure, people would be highly suspicious to outright condemning of the disappearance, but the damage control would be completely in the hands of authorities who are quite capable and experienced in dealing with such things.

Yeah, I just wound up reiterating your analysis.  The nature of the encryption key and possession thereof adds a new, possibly unprecedented metric to how the law will approach him.

Not to sound bombastic, but this is literally history in the making.  Information, the release of it, and the legal and technological apparatus have never created a situation like this before, and it will definitely set a huge precedent, in thought if not in any particular law, of how governments in the future will respond to info leaks.

I wonder if Nic Cage is playing the good guy or the bad guy in this role.  Good thing he does moral ambiguity so well.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #157 on: December 08, 2010, 08:39:26 pm »

I wonder if Nic Cage is playing the good guy or the bad guy in this role.  Good thing he does moral acting Erm,emotional ambiguity so well?
But yeah, not enough crazy conspiracies that are references to movies here. We need to speculate on what's in there.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #158 on: December 08, 2010, 08:39:48 pm »

If NC is unavaiable you can always hire Tom Hanks.
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« Reply #159 on: December 08, 2010, 08:42:56 pm »

Update: according to Techtrends, Visa and Mastercard jumped eagerly on the wikileaks ship because the next leak will be about them:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101208/11522412194/want-to-know-why-visa-mastercard-cut-off-wikileaks-because-its-latest-leak-was-about-them.shtml
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #160 on: December 08, 2010, 08:45:02 pm »

Why am I not surprised?
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« Reply #161 on: December 08, 2010, 08:45:48 pm »

For what its worth, a private investigator was at my house this weekend for some internal investigation. Apparently Bank of America (Where my stepfather works) is in a frenzy over some leak that they think might be related to all this. So Visa and Mastercard aren't the only companies terrified at whats going on.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #162 on: December 08, 2010, 08:58:16 pm »

As for the information in the file, its pretty much just what has been released, but without the censorship Assange and the journalists working with him put on the released documents. Or in other words, the names and locations of just about every secret agent/collaborator/people-who-would-be-shot. So basically he is saying to the governments: let me continue releasing your non-critical information about your important fish mines, diplomacy, and failed ops, and I won't release info which would actually get a bunch of people killed.
For what its worth, a private investigator was at my house this weekend for some internal investigation. Apparently Bank of America (Where my stepfather works) is in a frenzy over some leak that they think might be related to all this. So Visa and Mastercard aren't the only companies terrified at whats going on.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #163 on: December 08, 2010, 08:59:15 pm »

Hehe, wikileaks is fearmongering the right people.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #164 on: December 08, 2010, 09:06:15 pm »

Update: Paypal capitulates, will release the funds from Wikileaks' account that they were holding.

https://www.thepaypalblog.com/2010/12/updated-statement-about-wikileaks-from-paypal-general-counsel-john-muller/
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