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Author Topic: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!  (Read 48779 times)

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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #301 on: December 10, 2010, 12:52:02 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36xEvVnF2I

I can't understand this.  I seriously don't.  This is just too ironic, too fucked up.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #302 on: December 10, 2010, 01:02:09 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36xEvVnF2I

I can't understand this.  I seriously don't.  This is just too ironic, too fucked up.

OMG he called him Putkin
EDIT: Not to mention all the other things wrong with that interview.

They're showing this stuff in McDonalds and the Community Colleges folks. Fox news is on every major business and campus in America judging from my small perspective of it. Fox News seems to be the default in my school now, and the McDonalds I went into had their TV's blasting Fox News today.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #303 on: December 10, 2010, 01:28:14 am »

Because Fox News is "encouraged".
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #304 on: December 10, 2010, 01:30:43 am »

I stopped listening at "He's broken every law of the United States."

Uh, hey, dumbass:

Assange is an Australian - he's not subject to U.S. law unless he commits a crime on U.S. soil.

Herp derp, fucktard.

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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #305 on: December 10, 2010, 01:35:16 am »

I stopped listening at "He's broken every law of the United States."

He said plenty of derptacular things, this but one of them.  Also, new word:  Treasonist.

Also advocating extralegal action.  Way to support our founding principles, dude.  "Fuck rule of law!  This guy must die."
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #306 on: December 10, 2010, 03:02:22 am »

Wikileaks gets competition. The more the merrier if you ask me.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #307 on: December 10, 2010, 03:53:23 am »

I think the reactions to the events surrounding wikileaks are more informative then the leaked documents themselves.  So many have been provoked into plainly showing their true colors.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tom-flanagan-threatened-me-over-wikileaks-comment-toronto-woman-says/article1829169/
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #308 on: December 10, 2010, 04:14:45 am »

It's certainly raised a lot of attention on how various service providers with near-monopoly arbitrarily cuts people off without possibility for appeal. Remember how Minecraft developer Notch got suspended from Paypal, freezing his primary source of income, for no reason whatsoever apart from paypal wanting a better deal. Notch didn't exactly get worldwide media coverage, but now everyone knows Paypal, Visa and Mastercard together is able to cut off the most significant sources of funding for any organization they disagree with.

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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #309 on: December 10, 2010, 04:19:24 am »

I wonder if this would inspire more leaks in the future?
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #310 on: December 10, 2010, 11:02:32 am »

I gained two new awesome words in my vocabulary.

Thank you for derptacular and...I guess thank you blabbering dunderhead for Treasonist. Doesn't the fact some Americans don't even get legal jurisdiction on their own citizenship just make us all look like self-centered retards to the rest of the world?

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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #311 on: December 10, 2010, 11:06:14 am »

It's a masterpiece.  It really is.  And I honestly couldn't be happier that everyone in a public place with a TV on gets to see it.

I wonder if this would inspire more leaks in the future?

I'd bet so.  Look at it from the perspective of the leaker - You're famous, something you do "effects" the whole world, you look like a pariah and a martyr and you're badass and stuff.  You'll probably be caught and tried for treason, but that's later.  All it takes is one person at time to weigh the awesome over the practical, and there's a whole lot of people like that original soldier, people with access to loads of "secret" information who really have no business being trusted with it.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #312 on: December 10, 2010, 02:48:46 pm »

Y'know... Wikileaks itself isn't that important, is it?

I mean, it provides an easy and reasonably hard to trace way of leaking documents, but it wouldn't be too hard for other people to replicate that online.  And imprisoning/ arresting/ executing/ assassinating Assange won't stop people from leaking things.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #313 on: December 10, 2010, 03:10:51 pm »

No, but the moment of it. The hype, buildup and visibility of it... those things are more difficult to engineer than it seems. Be it awkward accident or planned mayhem, Wikileaks is in a rather unique position. For good or ill, I think all others will be "the ones that came after".  (and I'm hoping/betting there will be others)

Which is kind of silly. Leaks are nothing new. But yeah... things is changing.
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Re: Wikileaks guy arrested, Senator attempting retroactive law changing!
« Reply #314 on: December 10, 2010, 05:06:34 pm »

Y'know... Wikileaks itself isn't that important, is it?

I mean, it provides an easy and reasonably hard to trace way of leaking documents, but it wouldn't be too hard for other people to replicate that online.  And imprisoning/ arresting/ executing/ assassinating Assange won't stop people from leaking things.

The issue is more that the supression of information is such that an outlet is required.

Wikileak may not be an important site but it is sort of one I think should exist.

The times leaks should be supressed is when they have information that endangers people. For example I wouldn't want someone to leak all the secret agents in the FBI or CIA. I'd love them to leak info that they poisoned ExMafia Agents because that is the info I think we need to know.
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