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JacenHanLovesLegos

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Below the third cavern
« on: December 06, 2010, 02:11:35 pm »

About how may z levels should be between the magma sea nd the third cavern. My fort has 153 z-s, and I want to move my fort below the third cavern. Should I be aware of magma stopping me?
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 02:34:02 pm »

In my case, it was about 5 z-levels. My situation might not be the norm, though, as I had a magma pool in the third cavern layer (magma pools connect to the magma sea in this version).
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 02:49:45 pm »

The answer to the OP's question is a very definite "It depends"...

Even if you go and specify an exact amount of z levels between the 3rd cavern and the magma sea, hilly and mountainous areas will often cause variances in the number.  Really the best way to find out is to do some exploratory digging, or if you are not afraid of 'knowing more than you should', you can always run dfreveal and have a look-see and know for sure.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 02:52:58 pm »

'knowing more than you should'
Will use it now on this embark, used it once before in 31.12.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 03:00:51 pm »

As long as you don't unpause you should have nothing to worry about.  Unpausing causes bad things to happen  :o
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JacenHanLovesLegos

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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 04:53:42 pm »

I understand the fun. I've had it happen before. (Not unpause, have the fun)
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 04:56:28 pm »

DFreveal currently triggers hfs without unpausing on occasion. Use at the risk of your FPS.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 05:19:32 pm »

I use dfreveal to look around, kill the DF process, and start right up again.  That is if I really want to know, that is...
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2010, 05:24:11 pm »

DFreveal currently triggers hfs without unpausing on occasion. Use at the risk of your FPS.

The only case where I have ever seen this happen is if you start designating things with the mouse.  For some reason each tile designated with the mouse causes the game to move forward one step.  The first indication I had of this was when I was seeing cats adopting dwarves while laying out my fort.  Did a little digging and learned about this. 

In short, if you do nothing but look around while paused, dfreveal should not pop HFS.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2010, 09:55:49 pm »

Another question : Does mining out smoothed walls give bad thoughts, or only engraved ones?
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2010, 09:58:18 pm »

Only engravings.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2010, 10:01:30 pm »

Another question : Does mining out smoothed walls give bad thoughts, or only engraved ones?

Only high-quality engravings iirc.
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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2010, 10:03:29 pm »

Ok. I've gotta expand my meeting hall for my inevitable first ambush. A 7x9 meeting hall/bunker isn't gonna cut it for 42 dwarves.
Another question : Does mining out smoothed walls give bad thoughts, or only engraved ones?

Only high-quality engravings iirc.
Thanks for that info. However, from engraving my dining room my engravers will probably turn out masterpieces. Also, masterfully made dog bone bolts for everyone! I've made metal, just I need to get rid of the bones.
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So I just started playing this game and I accidentally nuked the moon.

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Re: Below the third cavern
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2010, 10:52:04 pm »

I've had 1 Z and I've had a couple dozen Z's, it's random.
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