Alright Jokerman, that actually satisfies me for now. Unvote, vote Pandarsenic.
Pand, why are you ignoring my otherwise valid question? You asked a question which Archangel responded to, but then go on to ignore Archangel. When I ask you about it, you just pretend that it's Archangel that's ignoring you. No sir, Archangel responded and you're just standing there refusing to continue the conversation. Why is that?
There's also the fact you keep jumping your suspicions around. Without you asking them any questions or even seeing them posting, you keep jumping players up and down several scuminess levels for seemingly no reason. For instance, why is Nirur scummy? You haven't said.
I didn't realize he'd responded to me. When he pointed it out, I headdesk'd, acknowledged that while his reason for doing it wasn't GOOD, it was still VALID, reminded him that he still needs to actually post, and moved on to Nirur Torir of the VROOM VROOM CHAINSAWWWWWWWW. I've found it suspicious that EVERYTHING HE DOES is ATTACKING ME WHENEVER I ATTACK IRONYOWL OR ARCHANGEL ever since he started doing it to the exclusion of anything else.
My suspicions have only changed in response to new information from whatever source it comes. If you can link to particular posts demonstrating this "jumpiness," I'd rather like to see them. The only one I can think of was when I doubleposted going after IronyOwl then shat a brick when I saw Archangel's post. Also, don't give me shit for "pretending" Archangel ignored me when I thought he had. If you didn't like it, maybe you should've cited the post where he replied to me.
To discredit your main example, I've considered Nirur Torir consistently scummy, and his primary offense (Attacking me for attacking Archangel and IronyOwl, all the time, forever) is easily observed - I simply continue attacking people who set him off. However, Archangel being off the hook and IronyOwl... well, I'll admit what I had on him was fairly insubstantial from the start so I don't have any solid shit to attack him on for the moment. I know, I know, "Find shit," but for now I'm going to deal with Nirur Torir. As "fun" as it's been watching his flailure for pretty much the entire day... enough.
NativeForeigner, if you're so convinced Jokerman is scum, why are you waiting for something new to come from him? MAKE something come from him. Or better yet, don't be set on thinking he's scum if you don't have a reason to, and if you have a reason to, make effort to have him further demonstrate it to you and to others?
*Looks at post*
WOW
I'M TALENTED
Nice OMGUS, but I'll drop this for the time being - you'd best have some content next post, though.
Unvote, vote Nirur Torir.
NT, are you still attacking me for when I attacked Archangel?
Partially.
1) You spent the day pre-extend active lurking. Your only accomplishments were an answer post, one non-RVS question, and stating what you think Org wanted to say.
2) Your first "real" action of the game was after the first extension was likely to go through, attacking IronyOwl for his buddying. You voted him without a question.
My greatest single suspicion is IronyOwl for his general grouping of him and Zathras, which I find odd. I feel like he's trying to have it be blatant for some reason.
In your own words, people likely to be blatant about it are jesters, scum with powerful death roles, and townies with anti-town living roles. A townie with an anti-town living role trying to die would be more blatant about trying to die. You weren't poising questions at him to try to see which he was, you just voted him as your most suspicious.
3) Your quick switch to an Archangel vote. He may have deflected your question, but you didn't do anything when you next posted, having posted to say that you only had two scumpicks.
4) When Mr.Person called you out on it, you said you had answered him, here. You had not.
5)Unsure if Joe is being stupid, lazy, or scummy. Attempting to determine. I definitely won't say I'm leaning town on him so far, though. Forming an opinion on the content of his posts would require, well, content. :I
It's funny because there had been *plenty* of content on Jokerman. If you even were trying to read him, you weren't taking an active role, and weren't reading his old posts, as though you didn't care.
6) I feel like you're trying to deter my attacks by telling me I'm acting scummy. Guess what? That won't work against me after I know I have scum.
7) You tried to defend yourself from having to actually take a stance on Jokerman.
Lack of hunting: I'm going to get a goddamn response out of Archangel or one of us is going to die waiting for it. As for everyone else, it's not like I'm not watching and reading. I've formed suspicions, you're just saying I don't have them because you're one of them.
Having your vote on a lurker is the most pathetic reason for not scumhunting I've seen so far. I've been here, and you could have questioned me further at any time.
I'll be more helpful tomorrow, as in Day 2, not as in 12/21/10
Stop waiting on your powers and do stuff now.
Along those lines, Jokerman: I'm increasingly feeling like you're trying to hide in the shadows today so you can use your night ability.
1) Good thing I voted for the extension and became active once I was coherent then, eh?
2) I didn't say it made sense, just that it was what it felt like. If anything, the problem was it didn't make sense.
3) If someone asks me who's scum I'm going to say X people I'm reasonably confident in, not "Kinda him, sorta him, maybe him..."
4) Function of my not having realized Archangel had, in fact, replied to me, if you're referring to what I think you are.
5, 7 [same thing]) Said I was going to soon. Nobody really cared. Decided to put it off for later since it's not really making a difference for me at the moment.
6) Way to project. You've been, if anything, attempting to deter me from attacking Arch and Owl by attacking me for it. Your attacks had inherent scuminess - you were attacking ME to stop me from attacking. By contrast, I was attacking Archangel because his attack was bad.
Come get some. You said "partially" in response to whether you're still attacking me for attacking Archangel. Why was Archangel worth chainsaw defending?
PPE - Here you go Jokerman. Content all up in this bitch.
PPE2: 2PPE2furious - NF, how did Zathras' attacks "scum up" Jokerman? What exactly are you even accusing him of? Why aren't you pursuing... whatever it is?