Zathras: Why do you consider someone's policy on lurking an important aspect of this game?
It's always important to understand a player's motivations and stances on the rest of the players. Lurking is one aspect of this, and the one that proved interesting in Jokerman, so I pulled at it.
Zathras:
In your own words, RVS is over, and we're full-throttle scumhunting. Your refusal to participate in RVS is scummy on its own, but even scummier is your saying that lurking is OK (yes, you did, see above). You a) actively refused to consider a cultist faction until called up on it; b) think town lurking is not scummy; c) think RVS is useless, even if it brought up the first interesting conversation of the game; and d) have failed to do anything useful for town whatsoever. You are scum. If pressed for details, I'd guess of the cultist kind.
That's an interesting leap there. How do you figure cultist?
I think he's scum, but I'm not
sure he's cultist; I just think his
"only scum+town, and mmmmmaybe a third party" is an attempt at misdirecting our attention from a potential cult, which would be a good strategy for a cultist scum, so I'm partial to that possibility. The last thing a cultist wants if for anyone to even think the word "cult", so when asked, he mentioned everyone but.
He seems to have cracked under pressure, and cracked scum. Look at his latest post:
FUCKING FIREFOX ARRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Don't have much time to post today, not sure if I'll be back.
Classic preemptive lurking excuse:
my browser hates me, so minimal post now, and don't attack me if I don't respond later. waaaahhh...
One thing that I have decided on is that you don't feel like scum right now. As such, I think it would be better to focus on pulling other players into the game, and we can revisit this argument D2, when lurking becomes a bigger thing and when it might make more sense to us. Does that sound reasonable?
It would, if you weren't scum. However, what you're saying is "leave me alone! quit picking on me! I'll say whatever you want, just go away!" No. The only reason for you to want the conversation over until D2 is because you are uncomfortable with the attention. Trying to slink back into obscurity is what scum do. Or isn't saying "not sure if I'll be back" an attempt to get out of the spotlight, trying to lurk though D1 the way you normally do, RVS or no?
Because you are being inconsistent: You say you don't like to participate in RVS, but are ready to play after it. We (you and I) are past that, but instead of continuing the conversation, you think I should go back to "draw others in" (probably by random voting them), and letting you go back into the shadows of nonparticipation. What are you hiding from? It's not RVS; that's over, yes? then what? This is utterly scummy.
Native: It's funny, because someone asked me that same question like, last year when I said that I hated RVS. And you know what? It hasn't affected the game yet. I'm just saying, it's not like I just ignore the game until D2. I'm here and ready to play, I just don't like wasting time with throwing stupid questions around. Like the one you quoted there.
But you aren't. I'm not asking you inane questions, and yet you are all "I can't post, firefox hates me, go pick on someone else!" You outright lie on the bolded parts, don't you?
Also, you didn't respond to Person's question:
What do you think of Zathras' case against you? Do you see his side? Does it have any merit or grain of truth? This is not an inane RVS question, yes? So where are you "here and ready to play"?
You are scum. Lying scum, wilfully lurking scum, self-contradictory scum. The worst combinations of scum.
Vote Jokerman-EXE. But enough about you.
PandarsenicSo on a scale of 1 to Bullshit, who else thinks this shit going on between Jow/Owl/Zath is total nonsense?
Wow, what a useless first post. How about you give us
your opinions? Is it total nonsense? Do you think it's irrelevant that he contradicted himself numerous times, proposed anti-town tactics were OK, and the cowered back into the shadows when pressed?
Zathras, how do YOU feel about IronyOwl grouping you and him and against Jokerman-EXE?
Meh; it was the first interesting thing to happen, so I think asking about it is quite Kosher; the grouping was a bit odd, but not too much. However:
IronyOwlDude, I also think I'm great, and agree that agreeing with someone is not the same as buddying, but yeah, cut it out. As far as I see, you only
really buddied me once; I do think Toaster and Pandar (and now MBP) are blowing it out of proportion, but yeah, quit bogarting my target and go pick on someone else instead of cheering from the gallery.
ToasterYou didn't answer the question: do
you think Jokerman's contradictions and anti-town leanings are
not scummy? Should he be allowed to get away with it?
Mr.PersonThank you for the response on possible factions. Ironically, I've asked it like five times, and yours was the first coherent response that actually addressed it (other than Jokerman's patently ridiculous/scummy "town+scum and mmmmmaybe a third party"). Do you have an inkling yet as to whether there will be rival mafia families? What do you think of my hypothesis that Jokerman is probably of the Cultist variant of scum? (again, I'm not
sure of this, but I think it likely for reasons already given).
Org:You are being more useless than usual. My meta-reading on you is that quiet Org is scum-Org. Please answer these: a) who are your top three scummiest?; b) what do you think of Joker's scummitude? How 'bout Irony's or Pandar's?; c) Do you agree with Joker's comments on lurkers ("ignore them until you're convinced all the active players are town")?; d) how likely do you think is it that a cultist is amongst us? Any other interesting types of scum come to your mind?
Archangel, Ottofar, you've been also useless so far. Please come in and contribute, or die.
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