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[Shrugging Khan]

Pleased to please!

Still, it's gotten awfully quiet in here. What timezone is everyone in?

[ECrownofFire]

Well now, that's not how it would be. If the one or two religious people we have in here were to be quiet, then it'd all go back to atheists disagreeing rather verbally about how rude one may be in one's approach to the religious.

One or two? Who would that be? I'm sure I've seen more than that.

And I'm on the west coast (Oregon, woo!), so it's 6 in the morning for me. Most of this forum is on the east coast though, so it'd be around 9 for them.

[Glowcat]

Pleased to please!

Still, it's gotten awfully quiet in here. What timezone is everyone in?

Physically? PST

But effectively this until school starts up again.

[Shrugging Khan]

Hah, what can I say about that...my online times are usually in between 2 and 5 AM, locally.

Anyways, OT. One of my bigger problems with religion as it exists:

[ECrownofFire]

Sorry, that only applies to indoctrinated religion, which I also disagree with.

Try again, Y/N?

[Shrugging Khan]

"Indoctrinated religion" is the kind of religion that - if I may pull another number out of my behind - 90% of people start and end with.

So no need to try again.

[ECrownofFire]

"Indoctrinated religion" is the kind of religion that - if I may pull another number out of my behind - 90% of people start and end with.

So no need to try again.

I didn't, and 76% of statistics are made up on the spot

[Shrugging Khan]

Neither did I (but I was a weird kid), but few people are afforded that luxury.

[Siquo]

Ah, and if 90% is bad, you might as well burn them all, right?

nope, what fun would this thread be if it was full of atheists friendly agreeing with each other?

Atheist vs atheist: another argument down the hole.

[Phmcw]

Sorry, that only applies to indoctrinated religion, which I also disagree with.

Try again, Y/N?

And back to my point. "Not all unverifiable view is equally unbelievable". Organised religion have had all the time needed to be proved absurd, thus are the one we oppose the most

I'd like to add that there is so much diversity in unprovable belief that I doubt very much that you can dismiss all with one argument.

[Shrugging Khan]

Ah, and if 90% is bad, you might as well burn them all, right?

Not burn...but how about turning them into fertilizer? 

Nah, really now. I'm not proposing solutions, just identifying problems.

[Glowcat]

Sorry, that only applies to indoctrinated religion, which I also disagree with.

Try again, Y/N?

Care to give your definition of religion? Because so far you seem to be defining Religion as a generic supernatural belief system.

[ECrownofFire]

Sorry, that only applies to indoctrinated religion, which I also disagree with.

Try again, Y/N?

Care to give your definition of religion? Because so far you seem to be defining Religion as a generic supernatural belief system.

Religion is pretty much that. There's no real way to define it. I like the way Wikipedia says it though

"Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency, or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine. Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from their ideas about the cosmos and human nature."

A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe is the best way to describe it in my opinion.

[Siquo]

Nah, really now. I'm not proposing solutions, just identifying problems.

Too many people are doing that already. Just look at the media, or politics.

Funny that the wikipedia definition sais "especially" which means "mostly but not limited to", so it can apply to those who believe that the universe was created by a big bang without the help of a supernatural agency as well

This was already covered 150 pages ago, but I still think it's funny. Imagine that.

[Urist is dead tome]

Siquo hit the nail on the head with his definition of religion.

And I'm in Central time man.

But back to reality Siquo provided a very different view of a nonspecific god.

No matter you look at Him/Her/(?) you will probably get a different idea every time.

But if that's the route we are going then we will probably open p a new can of crap and find out why most people here would be atheists.

And please none of this "I think religion is stupid so I'm not religious." It provides no insight at all.