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[Realmfighter]

Banks collapsing in upon themselves doesn't show cold calculation.

It shows greed.

[Zrk2]

The collapse was caused by guys like Bernie Madoff shafting others to get loaded, crashing the banks but leaving them still insanely rich. (Cold, calculation is exemplified here)

[ECrownofFire]

But they do.
...
Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

But they don't. Emotion and feeling run the world, and they have nothing to do with cold calculation.

The cold calculating decisions of the heads of multinational corporations shape those feelings which run the world, mean those decisions do run the world

That's not cold calculation, that's desire (an emotion/feeling) for money

[Realmfighter]

The collapse was caused by guys like Bernie Madoff shafting others to get loaded, crashing the banks but leaving them still insanely rich. (Cold, calculation is exemplified here)

I can see how that could be taken as cold calculation, but I see it as emotional greed.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

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The concept has long since become an anachronism and is currently causing more problems than it is solving.

You say this like cold calculating decisions run the world.

But they do.

Uh, no. Definitely not.

hum... sorry then.

No problem, if you believe in G(g?)od, go right ahead.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Voltaire

I disagree with the Christian faith on almost every premise (Except 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword'), I would never try to see it banned, merely argue against it with all my strength.

Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

Hey look, an actual quote I agree with. I'm actually religious, and believe in something completely different than Christianity (pantheistic and resurrection, woo), but I'll still defend your right to believe it. Of course, it helps when there's no such thing as a hell

I like "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" though. There are elements of wisdom in almost every religion.

But they do.
...
Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

But they don't. Emotion and feeling run the world, and they have nothing to do with cold calculation.

Emotion and feeling really shouldn't though. Justice or mercy, take your pick. I choose justice. Cold calculation isn't necessarily a bad thing.

gee, thanks guys... you fightin for my right to be a christian and all... i'm an atheist, though...

[Zrk2]

Oh the irony! Especially seeing as that just happened to me!

[ECrownofFire]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The concept has long since become an anachronism and is currently causing more problems than it is solving.

You say this like cold calculating decisions run the world.

But they do.

Uh, no. Definitely not.

hum... sorry then.

No problem, if you believe in G(g?)od, go right ahead.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Voltaire

I disagree with the Christian faith on almost every premise (Except 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword'), I would never try to see it banned, merely argue against it with all my strength.

Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

Hey look, an actual quote I agree with. I'm actually religious, and believe in something completely different than Christianity (pantheistic and resurrection, woo), but I'll still defend your right to believe it. Of course, it helps when there's no such thing as a hell

I like "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" though. There are elements of wisdom in almost every religion.

But they do.
...
Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

But they don't. Emotion and feeling run the world, and they have nothing to do with cold calculation.

Emotion and feeling really shouldn't though. Justice or mercy, take your pick. I choose justice. Cold calculation isn't necessarily a bad thing.

gee, thanks guys... you fightin for my right to be a christian and all... i'm an atheist, though...

Not specifically you, just Christianity and other religions in general.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

oh... i thought i was special...

[Zrk2]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The concept has long since become an anachronism and is currently causing more problems than it is solving.

You say this like cold calculating decisions run the world.

But they do.

Uh, no. Definitely not.

hum... sorry then.

No problem, if you believe in G(g?)od, go right ahead.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Voltaire

I disagree with the Christian faith on almost every premise (Except 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword'), I would never try to see it banned, merely argue against it with all my strength.

Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

Hey look, an actual quote I agree with. I'm actually religious, and believe in something completely different than Christianity (pantheistic and resurrection, woo), but I'll still defend your right to believe it. Of course, it helps when there's no such thing as a hell

I like "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" though. There are elements of wisdom in almost every religion.

But they do.
...
Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

But they don't. Emotion and feeling run the world, and they have nothing to do with cold calculation.

Emotion and feeling really shouldn't though. Justice or mercy, take your pick. I choose justice. Cold calculation isn't necessarily a bad thing.

gee, thanks guys... you fightin for my right to be a christian and all... i'm an atheist, though...

Not specifically you, just Christianity and other religions philosophies in general.

That is how it really should work. If you say your philosophy forbids you from doing something that is just too bad, but the second your religion says you cančt do something...

[ECrownofFire]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The concept has long since become an anachronism and is currently causing more problems than it is solving.

You say this like cold calculating decisions run the world.

But they do.

Uh, no. Definitely not.

hum... sorry then.

No problem, if you believe in G(g?)od, go right ahead.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -Voltaire

I disagree with the Christian faith on almost every premise (Except 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword'), I would never try to see it banned, merely argue against it with all my strength.

Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

Hey look, an actual quote I agree with. I'm actually religious, and believe in something completely different than Christianity (pantheistic and resurrection, woo), but I'll still defend your right to believe it. Of course, it helps when there's no such thing as a hell

I like "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" though. There are elements of wisdom in almost every religion.

But they do.
...
Realmfighter, why the pointlessness?

But they don't. Emotion and feeling run the world, and they have nothing to do with cold calculation.

Emotion and feeling really shouldn't though. Justice or mercy, take your pick. I choose justice. Cold calculation isn't necessarily a bad thing.

gee, thanks guys... you fightin for my right to be a christian and all... i'm an atheist, though...

Not specifically you, just Christianity and other religions philosophies in general.

That is how it really should work. If you say your philosophy forbids you from doing something that is just too bad, but the second your religion says you cančt do something...

Point taken, but I'd generalize it even more to beliefs. Don't want to exclude politics in this, now do we? (Separation of church and state notwithstanding)

[Zrk2]

But politics is nothing but applying philosophy to real world issues.

[ECrownofFire]

But politics is nothing but applying philosophy to real world issues.

I'll grant you that, but non-philosophical beliefs exist.

[Zrk2]

Which are all rooted in philosophy because all beliefs come from ones philosophy.

[ECrownofFire]

Which are all rooted in philosophy because all beliefs come from ones philosophy.

It depends on how you define philosophy, but that's just semantics.

[Zrk2]

Semantics? SEMANTICS? I'll show you... oh, wait.