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[Siquo]

You're not there yet, mr Khan. Neither am I, for that matter, yet. The dalai lama, maybe. Believing in yourself, as fqllve says, is just another answer to insecurities.

What does this mean, I don't even.

If your belief is just an answer to your own insecurities, then you are unfree to choose and hold any belief that does not answer them (answer is a broad term here, I don't mean alleviate).

[Realmfighter]

What do you even mean by insecurities?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What do you even mean by insecurities?

This. So much this. I don't even know what you're talking about, it just sounds like...I don't even know, nothing.

[Sowelu]

I propose that spending time as an atheist, at least by the definition in here (rational consideration of the world as being fully explainable without a deity), is good for everybody--but that choosing thereafter to return to religion causes no harm.  Peoples' actions will be driven by choice, not ignorance, at that point...but they can still gain the benefits of group ritual or devoted group service to a cause if they wish.  It turns religious groups into just another nonprofit organization, and that's okay with me.

[Shrugging Khan]

You're not there yet, mr Khan. Neither am I, for that matter, yet. The dalai lama, maybe. Believing in yourself, as fqllve says, is just another answer to insecurities.

You're reading too many crappy newspapers, I suspect.

[Urist is dead tome]

An atheist I know claimed that the Bible was adapted from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Anyone else hold this view or is this guy the only one? (Essentially.)

[Realmfighter]

An atheist I know claimed that the Bible was adapted from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Anyone else hold this view or is this guy the only one? (Essentially.)

Doubt it, he was probably saying it to you just for "Lol what" value.

[fqllve]

An atheist I know claimed that the Bible was adapted from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Anyone else hold this view or is this guy the only one? (Essentially.)

Doubt it, he was probably saying it to you just for "Lol what" value.

Maybe Genesis was, and the serpent has been suggested to symbolize a Sumerian god, but the majority of the bible is a history of the Israelites.

[Urist is dead tome]

That there's the Old Testament.

[fqllve]

Well yeah.

You meant he suggest that Jesus was a reinterpretation of Gilgamesh? No, I've never heard anything like that other than in a The Hero's Journey kind of way.

[Shrugging Khan]

Lots of stories and story elements in the bible are just whatever used to be popular in the region back then and in the millenia before. Virgin birth, ascending to heaven, serpents, sun standing still, all the shit miracles the prophets pulled, a lot of the other jesus things like that flying star...

All been around before, for a long time.

[Urist is dead tome]

Your point being?

[Shrugging Khan]

Why you asking?

[Urist is dead tome]

Just wondering. Anyway. I heard (Not sure if it's true.) that virgin was a mistranslation and they didn't realize.. This is understandable because many languages(Hebrew namely.) have to have VERY loose translations. I know this cause I have a Bible in Hebrew, ad it has English running uder the Hebrew saying what it is. Once again VERY loose.

[Realmfighter]

Apparently, some reader had weak-and woman-like nerves.

This was quite a time ago.