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[Earthquake Damage]

ur a fascist nazi! or maybe u wanna for the crooks in goubernement to exploit the people without them speaking up!!111

Wrong thread.  Allow me to redirect you to a somewhat (though perhaps not entirely) appropriate one.

[Leafsnail]

It's a sign of the times, I guess. Freedom of speech and all. There were times when people knew when to shut up. Nowadays, the opinion of the common man weighs as much as the opinion of the learned man, because even they can be wrong. Yes they can be, but overall they're a lot less wrong than you, common man. So please, don't speak up for yourself, and when you do, make sure you put a lot of thought into it. And even then, test it first against someone who knows his shit before spouting it in public. You're embarrassing the human race. Shut up.

Have you... changed your viewpoint very dramatically since the last atheist thread?

[Siquo]

No, I just get annoyed by different things lately. The last elections are one of them. I'm now seeing vocal dumb masses everywhere. Sorry for bringing that up 

[Shrugging Khan]

Wrong thread.  Allow me to redirect you to a somewhat (though perhaps not entirely) appropriate one.

Oh please no 

[Leafsnail]

No, I just get annoyed by different things lately. The last elections are one of them. I'm now seeing vocal dumb masses everywhere. Sorry for bringing that up 

Well... it's just that last time you caused a bit of stir with

Sure I can. As all ideas are equal in worth, being able to see the merit of other ideas makes you a fuller person.

So, uh...

[Siquo]

So, uh...

Yeah, I know. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Or that I want to hear them. Or <insert any other made-up reason to maintain internal consistency>.

[fqllve]

being able to see the merit of other ideas makes you a fuller person.

I agree with this part. Even if an idea is completely stupid it never hurts to try to figure out why people would willingly believe something like that.

[Leafsnail]

Well, yeah.  But "You should try and see all viewpoints, afterall they're equally valid" is fundamentally incompatible with "Most people are complete idiots".

[Earthquake Damage]

Yeah, I know. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Or that I want to hear them. Or <insert any other made-up reason to maintain internal consistency>.

Saving throw:  Failed.

[Siquo]

Well, yeah.  But "You should try and see all viewpoints, afterall they're equally valid" is fundamentally incompatible with "Most people are complete idiots".

Of course it isn't. The validity of a viewpoint has nothing to do with that. It's just a difference in priorities that annoys me, and the complete unwillingness of actually thinking. Whether they can't or won't is indifferent to me, for other historic reasons.

[Andir]

Well, yeah.  But "You should try and see all viewpoints, afterall they're equally valid" is fundamentally incompatible with "Most people are complete idiots".

Of course it isn't. The validity of a viewpoint has nothing to do with that. It's just a difference in priorities that annoys me, and the complete unwillingness of actually thinking. Whether they can't or won't is indifferent to me, for other historic reasons.

I don't think it is indifferent to you... I think you are irritated because they do not think as you do...

[fqllve]

Of course it isn't. The validity of a viewpoint has nothing to do with that. It's just a difference in priorities that annoys me, and the complete unwillingness of actually thinking. Whether they can't or won't is indifferent to me, for other historic reasons.

Priorities are ideas.

[Leafsnail]

Of course it isn't. The validity of a viewpoint has nothing to do with that. It's just a difference in priorities that annoys me, and the complete unwillingness of actually thinking. Whether they can't or won't is indifferent to me, for other historic reasons.

"I don't think philosophy is important" is still a viewpoint.  Indeed, "I don't think it's necessary to overthink things" is another.

[Bauglir]

At a guess, it's the dumb masses who are so willfully set in their own stupidity that's getting to you. They're neither accepting of different viewpoints (which mitigates the problem of dealing with them if they disagree with you, because at least they're not going to insist that you agree, your beliefs be damned), nor holding viewpoints you find acceptable (so they don't even have the mitigating virtue of being right.

My 2 cents, anyway. I am overanalyzing I bet.

[Sinned]

Religion should be like masturbating... you keep it to yourself and do it by yourself.

Everyone's happy and people don't talk about it. Bonus, It safes lives and also stops creating more of it. Because this dirtball is getting way to busy.