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[Il Palazzo]

the worst part about atheism threads is that you genuinely can't distinguish between someone being sarcastic, an idiot, or just a smug asshole

Intentionally or not, this is the most beautiful post I have ever seen.

Don't worry, everybody's got a mancrush on Dasleah. Even women.

[malimbar04]

I'll just drop it here:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html

Ugh jeez, Subnormality.  Guy needs to just write essays or something.

Also, three cheers for more misplaced causal relationships.  None of those things would go away if religion were gone, they'd just find a new outlet.

I think the stupidest part is the newspaper headline that reads "1 in 4 US Teen Girls has STDs" in panel 1 changes to "1 in 400" in the last panel.

Because yeah, religion cause teen promiscuity and STDs.

Haha, I didn't notice all the things in the background. That's good stuff. If you're nitpicky enough to see that, then why would the price drop? 13cents/lb to 13cents/kg is a huge price drop for onions.

[fqllve]

I'm no expert, but isn't that meant to be ironic?  On an LCS kindof level.

I dunno, the last panel confuses it. Their tirades are so over the top that yeah, it seems satirical, but the last panel makes it seem like the joke is really "haha look at how serious and grim these guys are about the really good things that are about to happen."

Haha, I didn't notice all the things in the background. That's good stuff. If you're nitpicky enough to see that, then why would the price drop? 13cents/lb to 13cents/kg is a huge price drop for onions.

Actually, I think that sign gag is hilarious, not the price drop, but the change from imperial to metric.

[Siquo]

malimbar, shall I let Descartes continue? (That's a theist joke)

Also humourous: When Science changes its mind it's a Good Thing, when Religion does to escape nitpickers, it's being evasive.

So that's who the brain in the jar guy was. So am I Discartes here, or am I his opponent?

... You're kidding me, right?
Alright, some enlightenment for you (including criticism that refutes your similar thoughts). Also, the solution to the theist joke is in meditations III.

Unless your post was as Dasleah described it, but basing my interpretations on that assumption makes it impossible to hold any kind of conversation here.

[Leafsnail]

I dunno, the last panel confuses it. Their tirades are so over the top that yeah, it seems satirical, but the last panel makes it seem like the joke is really "haha look at how serious and grim these guys are about the really good things that are about to happen."

Well, I think that's to say "They aren't gonna destroy us all, but they aren't gonna fix all our problems".  Or something.

[Il Palazzo]

I thought it was more along the lines of: Both sides are silly.

[fqllve]

Probably. I guess it's just like Dasleah said. When it comes to religion it's impossible to tell what's ironic. When I first read a Chick tract I thought it was satirical and here the opposite has happened.

[Glowcat]

I'm a bit late to the party, but let me try to dissuade this brain-in-a-jar philosophy.

The biggest problem I can see with Solipsism is that, for reasons similar to what you covered, whether the universe exists independently or not it functions exactly the same as if it were independent and physical. To any external observer they would be indistinguishable... so while possible there's little point in considering the brain-in-a-jar scenario as it changes nothing about how we discover the universe we are living within.

[Earthquake Damage]

The biggest problem I can see with Solipsism is that, for reasons similar to what you covered, whether the universe exists independently or not it functions exactly the same as if it were independent and physical. To any external observer they would be indistinguishable... so while possible there's little point in considering the brain-in-a-jar scenario as it changes nothing about how we discover the universe we are living within.

Unfalsifiable therefore unimportant?

[FuzzyZergling]

I don't really care if I'm in a jar or not.
If I am, it's a very nice jar.

[Glowcat]

Unfalsifiable therefore unimportant?

Pretty much. However if this reality were an elaborate pseudo-dream set-up it would be easily falsifiable by waking up.

Trying to figure out the difference before then would be chasing an Absolute Truth, something which I regard as a fool's pursuit. If I cannot observe or reason towards a goal then there is nothing to pursue. There's just an infinite supply of what-ifs.

[Andir]

the worst part about atheism threads is that you genuinely can't distinguish between someone being sarcastic, an idiot, or just a smug asshole

Intentionally or not, this is the most beautiful post I have ever seen.

Except, it's a rather negative statement.  Of the three choices, none of them is "genuinely feel that way" except idiot...  Personally, I think that post in itself falls into the last group.

[Shrugging Khan]

I'm a smug asshole, and I'm right about bashing religion.

[malimbar04]

I'm a bit late to the party, but let me try to dissuade this brain-in-a-jar philosophy.

The biggest problem I can see with Solipsism is that, for reasons similar to what you covered, whether the universe exists independently or not it functions exactly the same as if it were independent and physical. To any external observer they would be indistinguishable... so while possible there's little point in considering the brain-in-a-jar scenario as it changes nothing about how we discover the universe we are living within.

Exactly what I was trying to say! I like philosophy, but I don't know the history nor do I care all too much. I just want to know how the lightbulb works, not the half-baked theories that lead to it. For example, I have no reason to know that a few hundred years ago they believed in four bodily humors. It wouldn't help me diagnose or treat a patient with cancer.

Although... there is also the problem that this outside construct is not defined. Simply saying  that "I can't know for sure how my consciousness gathers information, for it could all be an illusion" just pushes the problem back. If we continue to put possibilities on the table, we could disprove them by the artifacts each would generate. A fleeting dream of a butterfly, for example, would be limited by the purely physical limitations of a butterfly's brain.

[Dasleah]

I'm a smug asshole, and I'm right about bashing religion.

hey pal that's my schtick

the worst part about atheism threads is that you genuinely can't distinguish between someone being sarcastic, an idiot, or just a smug asshole

Except, it's a rather negative statement.  Of the three choices, none of them is "genuinely feel that way" except idiot...  Personally, I think that post in itself falls into the last group.

ha ha check out this guy

what an act