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Author Topic: Atheism Redux [READ THE FIRST POST]  (Read 201272 times)

Shrugging Khan

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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #555 on: December 15, 2010, 06:23:36 pm »

Sexism.  Great.
Have someone's delicate sensibilities been insulted by something that wasn't even an insult of any kind?  :o
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #556 on: December 15, 2010, 06:35:55 pm »

Not offended.  I can note blatant sexism without being upset by it.
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« Reply #557 on: December 15, 2010, 06:39:35 pm »

I think I understand you. I probably heard Descartes first few arguments somewhere in my past. If you remember (or look it up), I was trying to dissuade his first point: that we might be a fleeting dream of a butterfly with an entirely constructed reality.

You've confused Descartes with Zhuangzi, an ancient Chinese philosopher/book. Descartes is the one who took "Doubt all that can be doubted" to its extreme and came out of it with "I think therefore I am."
Zhuagnzi? That is a crazy name. It's one I'm sure I've never heard before. Its far more likely I bastardized Descartes (or even more likely a mix of "I think therefor I am" and the commentary on "The Matrix" movie.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #558 on: December 15, 2010, 06:41:14 pm »

Not offended.  I can note blatant sexism without being upset by it.
Then you'd better point out the sexism to me.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #559 on: December 15, 2010, 06:51:47 pm »

Not offended.  I can note blatant sexism without being upset by it.
Then you'd better point out the sexism to me.
Don't feed the trolls.
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« Reply #560 on: December 15, 2010, 06:53:01 pm »

No way. There shall be no doubt cast on our honour! None of us noble internet-men shall accept it!
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #561 on: December 15, 2010, 06:53:34 pm »

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Shrugging Khan

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« Reply #562 on: December 15, 2010, 07:01:00 pm »

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Sexism
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Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other.

Never said anything like that. I simply referred to the rather undeniable facts that women aren't as likely to keep a level head during heated discussions; that they have less of a capacity for such debating heat. That's not saying they're worth less, or otherwise inferior to men - just that when it comes to these things, they seam to run out of nerve faster than men. It's an observation made quite frequently, with little evidence speaking against it (and even some confirming it, IIRC). There might've been a Cracked article about it a while back, actually.

So I maintain my point: You just want an easy way to look down upon your fellow debaters. Ts ts. That's not funky. Just because someone talks funnyspeak doesn't mean you can make half-assed claims about their positions.
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #563 on: December 15, 2010, 07:02:55 pm »

Just because you think its not sexist doesn't mean your not a prick.
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« Reply #564 on: December 15, 2010, 07:04:59 pm »

I'm certainly a prick, but to assume that there are no differences between the sexes just for the sake of not offending anyone is...a little off  :o
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« Reply #565 on: December 15, 2010, 07:06:07 pm »

I would say this goes under "less competant" actually.  And just because it's supposedly an "undeniable fact" doesn't mean you can generalize it to all women and then use it as a derogatory term against other people.
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« Reply #566 on: December 15, 2010, 07:08:41 pm »

There's political correctness that must be obeyed... or something like that.  Offending people is totally anti-social and if you are anti-social, you are a terrorist!
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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #567 on: December 15, 2010, 07:11:41 pm »

Shrugging Khan is the person I would be least sad to see leave the forums.  Including spammers.

Just sayin'.
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« Reply #568 on: December 15, 2010, 07:13:12 pm »

I would say this goes under "less competant" actually.  And just because it's supposedly an "undeniable fact" doesn't mean you can generalize it to all women and then use it as a derogatory term against other people.
Why derogatory? I used it in an entirely general manner. Just because there was a "weak" next to it doesn't mean that it has anything directly to do with the "woman-like", rather than the unknown traitor's nerves it referred to. Two attributes aimed at one object do not make the two attributes related to one another, which would be the only way to read derogatory-ness in my earlier lines.

Also, that's the entire use of generalisations - using them to describe the vast majority of a group, rather than to painstakingly explain that yes there are exceptions, quite a lot actually, but there's still a bigger part of them that do fit into this pattern, so stop it already. To point at generalisations as something universally bad is just childish.

There's political correctness that must be obeyed... or something like that.  Offending people is totally anti-social and if you are anti-social, you are a terrorist!
I'd rather be a terrorist than have no fun.

Shrugging Khan is the person I would be least sad to see leave the forums.  Including spammers.

Just sayin'.
I like you too, you know. Faithful fellow bay watcher, and all that.
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I'm actually quite nice IRL, but you people have to pay the price for that.

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Re: Atheism Redux
« Reply #569 on: December 15, 2010, 07:14:06 pm »

Shrugging Khan is the person I would be least sad to see leave the forums.  Including spammers.

Just sayin'.
I like you too, you know. Faithful fellow bay watcher, and all that.
Hugs all around!
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