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Author Topic: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 11: Surrounded By Incompetent Fools)  (Read 10521 times)

Jay Kayell

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell!
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2010, 11:41:54 am »

Hungry.

Gather 3 units of flesh.
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Re: Roll to Rule Hell!
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2010, 12:03:13 pm »

Also, let's say I wanted reproducing ice golems, is that even possible since they're not biological?

Yes.

Minions are broadly divided into self-replicating and non-self-replicating. Self-replicating creatures can innately produce more of themselves, usually through some sort of biological process, but instinctively knowing how to produce more of themselves would also count.
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Re: Roll to Rule Hell!
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2010, 01:53:00 pm »

 Uggh... Just read the OP like I do. >.>
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Re: Roll to Rule Hell!
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2010, 05:33:21 pm »

So does this minion stuff work anywho?  Like let's say I want to create a bunch of ice golems, non-reproducing.  Do they start naturally dying out or can they only be killed by other stuff?
Generally speaking, they only die when something kills them. Of course, they can also abandon you or other not-exactly-dying ways, but old age isn't an issue.

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Are there humans and/or lesser demons I can start enslaving and force to do my bidding?
Not at the moment. Rogue minions from other demon lords (or you, for that matter) might end up roaming close enough to scoop up, and it's theoretically possible to open portals or otherwise trigger events to bring more slaves/subjects/inhabitants/meals to the world.

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Over how many turns would it take for the next generation to reproduce into existence as you mentioned selective breeding earlier.
Depends. They require upkeep to do this, but upkeep generally counts as the materials they would normally need. So in most cases, a group of reproducers would produce another one of themselves every two turns. More expensive minions would reproduce slower.

Note that once you start providing minions with upkeep, it can be hard to justify to them why you should stop, or why their new fellows shouldn't get the same treatment. Self-replicating minions are great for expansion but tend to get out of hand.

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Also, let's say I wanted reproducing ice golems, is that even possible since they're not biological?
As Demonic Spoon pointed out, the exact details are fairly irrelevant. If it makes enough sense to be magic/semi-magic, it probably makes enough sense to work.


Uggh... Just read the OP like I do. >.>
In his defense, OP's not my clearest work. :-\
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The kitchenette mold free, you move on to the pantry. it's nasty in there. The bacon is grazing on the lettuce. The ham is having an illicit affair with the prime rib, The potatoes see all, know all. A rat in boxer shorts smoking a foul smelling cigar is banging on a cabinet shouting about rent money.

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell!
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2010, 05:50:24 pm »

Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back

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"Ugh, the mundane nature of collection, this must be solved as soon as possible."  Shuka says to herself.  Start by collecting two unit of stone, marble or granite is preferred but any will do for the moment, and one unit of ice. 
Granite: [4] +1
Granite: [1] -1
Ice: [4] +1
You get greedy trying to extract as much stone as possible at once, and spoil the attempt. Your ice collection goes smoothly.

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Gather 2 units of stone, and 1 unit of wood.
Stone: [1] -1
Stone: [4] +1
Wood: [3] +1 Low-Quality
Your attempts at harvesting stone get you nowhere, and the only wood you can extract from this place is of questionable quality.

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Gather 2 units of bone and 1 rock.
Bone: [4] +1
Bone: [4] +1
Rock: [1] -1
You gather bones easily enough, but lose some of them in a failed attempt at collecting stone.

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Gather 2 units of rock, 1 unit of sand.
Rock: [1] -1
Rock: [6] +2
Sand: [1] -1
You fail to extract anything from the countryside.

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So thats: 2 mud, 1 general biological matter (plants! Yay!)
Mud: [1] -1
Mud: [1] -1
Bio: [2] +0
Through circumstances you can't fully fathom, you fail miserably to collect anything of worth from your surroundings.

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Gather 3 units of flesh.
Flesh: [6] +2
Flesh: [6] +2
Flesh: [3] +1 Low-Quality
You reap a glorious bounty from the land. Well, the things on the land, but you get the idea.

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This is... an interesting start. Without a doubt the most 1s I have ever seen in quick succession.
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A hand, a hand, my kingdom for a hot hand!
The kitchenette mold free, you move on to the pantry. it's nasty in there. The bacon is grazing on the lettuce. The ham is having an illicit affair with the prime rib, The potatoes see all, know all. A rat in boxer shorts smoking a foul smelling cigar is banging on a cabinet shouting about rent money.

V-Norrec

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2010, 05:59:19 pm »

Clearly the only thing to be done is to create Ice Golems, non-reproducing.  If I get an extra action or two, it will be spent gathering 1 unit of Granite and 1 unit of metal (preference for Iron).
« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 06:03:06 pm by V-Norrec »
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IronyOwl

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2010, 06:32:38 pm »

You know, this was such a miserable failure that I think I will enable three actions per turn again.

Next turn will be normal. Probably. Or I'll just say you all get 3 actions a turn anyway, or something.
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A hand, a hand, my kingdom for a hot hand!
The kitchenette mold free, you move on to the pantry. it's nasty in there. The bacon is grazing on the lettuce. The ham is having an illicit affair with the prime rib, The potatoes see all, know all. A rat in boxer shorts smoking a foul smelling cigar is banging on a cabinet shouting about rent money.

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2010, 06:45:06 pm »

If my Ice Golem creation is successful will I be able to give them actions too, or will they just stand there as this is all one turnish

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2010, 07:23:29 pm »

It's all one turn-ish, so they'll just stand around.
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A hand, a hand, my kingdom for a hot hand!
The kitchenette mold free, you move on to the pantry. it's nasty in there. The bacon is grazing on the lettuce. The ham is having an illicit affair with the prime rib, The potatoes see all, know all. A rat in boxer shorts smoking a foul smelling cigar is banging on a cabinet shouting about rent money.

Jay Kayell

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2010, 07:29:43 pm »

Eat low-quality meat. Create one flesh golem, non-replicating. Gather more flesh.
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Humaan

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2010, 10:53:32 pm »

That was fail. Well, I better try and get someone to do this work for me...

Gather 3 Wood.
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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2010, 02:12:50 am »

Are there any tribes of masterless constructs, non-noble demons or escaped convicts in this game? I think there are, but I'm not too sure.
Gather sand and rocks.
If there are tribes, get them to join me.
Otherwise, gather more rocks.

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2010, 02:19:26 am »

Are there any tribes of masterless constructs, non-noble demons or escaped convicts in this game? I think there are, but I'm not too sure.

Not yet.

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Are there humans and/or lesser demons I can start enslaving and force to do my bidding?
Not at the moment. Rogue minions from other demon lords (or you, for that matter) might end up roaming close enough to scoop up, and it's theoretically possible to open portals or otherwise trigger events to bring more slaves/subjects/inhabitants/meals to the world.
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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2010, 09:33:33 am »

Gather 3 bone again.

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 I can see a lawful evil vs chaotic evil PvP war coming. There are 3 chaotic players and 3 lawful players.

Question: Can I create unit type A which can create unit type B? It would count as replicating?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2010, 09:52:56 am by tomas1297 »
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V-Norrec

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Re: Roll to Rule Hell! (Turn 1: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back)
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2010, 09:38:04 am »

Anything you create this turn can't be used to help gather.

If my Ice Golem creation is successful will I be able to give them actions too, or will they just stand there as this is all one turnish
It's all one turn-ish, so they'll just stand around.
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