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Lex Talionias

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no flux?
« on: December 03, 2010, 10:24:48 pm »

started off a new game of DF and i am yet to hit flux stone, i have coal and iron up the wazoo but not an ounce of flux! is there a way to check if there is even any here to begin with without ruining this map for myself?
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 10:25:42 pm »

started off a new game of DF and i am yet to hit flux stone, i have coal and iron up the wazoo but not an ounce of flux! is there a way to check if there is even any here to begin with without ruining this map for myself?
The prospector tool in DFhack would show you how much of each stone you have
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 10:28:38 pm »

On embark: Look for limestone, marble, chalk and...and...I KNOW THIS ONE! Crap, I can't remember the 4th flux stone. If I was looking at its name I could tell you, but for the life of my it has escaped my mind. Its a carbonate compound anyway.

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 10:29:44 pm »

On embark: Look for limestone, marble, chalk and...and...I KNOW THIS ONE! Crap, I can't remember the 4th flux stone. If I was looking at its name I could tell you, but for the life of my it has escaped my mind. Its a carbonate compound anyway.

dude, there is 5 flux stones. even i know that. anyway i know what they are. but i cant FIND ANY!!!
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 10:32:28 pm »

Your right, 4 iron ores. Not my day today.

I ran out of tea you see, and such I'm going through withdrawal.

Lex Talionias

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Re: no flux?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 10:42:40 pm »

Your right, 4 iron ores. Not my day today.

I ran out of tea you see, and such I'm going through withdrawal.

ahhh, i see. i have a whole box of 150 tea bags here so i know there are only 3 iron ores. :D


anyway im trying DF hack's prospector tool but it wont run for some reason.
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 10:46:14 pm »

You forgot goblinite.  :P

Lex Talionias

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 10:47:10 pm »

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Re: no flux?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 10:47:31 pm »

Technically there are five flux stones, but one of them (calcite) is a mineral only found in one of the other fluxes. So the only ones that count are chalk, marble, limestone, and dolomite!.
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 10:48:26 pm »

anyway, can i have some help running DF hack: prospector?
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 01:59:32 am »

dude, there is 5 flux stones. even i know that. anyway i know what they are. but i cant FIND ANY!!!

You should check for layers of them before embark.  If there are no flux layers on your map, you'll never find any.

Most of them are sedimentary, so look around all the edges and on every embark tile for your map, because sedimentary stones will be on top of everything else, except for soil.  If you don't have any of those, your only hope is for marble (which is metamorphic).  For that, I'd just pierce all three caverns with an exploratory shaft (and wall up the cavern entrances right after that).  That will either give you hints on where the marble is, or prove that there probably isn't any flux on your map at all.

You can also use dfreveal (do NOT unpause the game if you want to unreveal things / avoid triggering FPS-eating HFS way before you have to) and dfprospector to look for it.  A link to the whole dfhack toolset should be on the Modding forum somewhere and I think a copy of it is also on DFFD.
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 02:05:40 am »

Technically there are five flux stones, but one of them (calcite) is a mineral only found in one of the other fluxes. So the only ones that count are chalk, marble, limestone, and dolomite!.
Though if your embark location lacks flux, being able to trade for calcite can be significant.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 04:28:28 am »

On a related note, I just embarked on a volcano to play with magma, and am now attached to the fort despite it's total lack of flux... How much flux could I be expecting per year in trade, if I demanded unreasonable amounts from my liaison?
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 06:46:00 am »

IIRC. not very much. Lex: What's happening when you try to run prospector?
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Re: no flux?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 06:51:09 am »

Technically there are five flux stones, but one of them (calcite) is a mineral only found in one of the other fluxes. So the only ones that count are chalk, marble, limestone, and dolomite!.

I knew one of the ones he forgot was Calcite, but I forgot dolomite, which is a shame because I love dolomite! I like the name =3
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