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[Aqizzar]

Well I can't remember the name of the news site so I gotta count this one as a loss. But I for one, will always love America. And I think that if this country were to fall than only a few other countries would be able to handle the economical responsibilities. China, Russia (Maybe.), and India(Maybe.) Those are the only other countries who could handle the position as THE world superpower. And if the did they would not be so charitable.

What in the world do you mean by "fall"?  To who, or what?  Who would not be so charitable how, on what?  There's so much aimless paranoia going on here, I've completely lost track of what you even think you're warning against.

[Urist is dead tome]

I was trying to change the subject since I admitted I lost. And England? Spain? France? none of those countries are rich/powerful enough. I'm not waring anyone. By fall I meant be defeated. Paranoia would require idea that I think are directed at me. And I believe that America is very good to more impoverished countries.

[Sowelu]

TEAM CANADA:  WORLD NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH

[Earthquake Damage]

England? Spain? France? none of those countries are rich/powerful enough.

You were naming countries you thought could handle (whatever that means -- I figured you meant they had well-developed institutions or something) being a superpower.  You didn't say they were the only ones you thought were in a position to become a superpower.

[Realmfighter]

TEAM CANADA:  WORLD NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH

If you stop shooting each other we will come over and give you all home baked cookies.

[Aqizzar]

I was trying to change the subject since I admitted I lost. ... By fall I meant be defeated.

My point exactly.  What does "defeated" mean?  Nuked to oblivion?  Not the world's cop anymore?  Not the de-facto standard currency?  What are you trying to change the subject to?  I'm perfectly willing entertain whatever discussion you want to have (when I get home from work), but I'm sick and tired of watching this thread like essentially every thread about politics devolve into completely meaningless falling sky terms like "defeated" and "rich/powerful enough (for something)" without any kind of metric or clear purpose of any kind attached to them.

[Urist is dead tome]

EARTHQUAKE DAMAGE. I was trying to figure out what that you were referring to. And by handle I mean drive the economy of the world. England, France and Spain can't handle that. No country in Europe can. The only way would for them to form some kind of "European Union". An idea that is laughable at best

[Zrk2]

I was trying to change the subject since I admitted I lost. ... By fall I meant be defeated.

My point exactly.  What does "defeated" mean?  Nuked to oblivion?  Not the world's cop anymore?  Not the de-facto standard currency?  What are you trying to change the subject to?  I'm perfectly willing entertain whatever discussion you want to have (when I get home from work), but I'm sick and tired of watching this thread like essentially every thread about politics devolve into completely meaningless falling sky terms like "defeated" and "rich/powerful enough (for something)" without any kind of metric or clear purpose of any kind attached to them.

It's true, remember the Politics Thread?

Anyway, I think he means decline to a point where America was no longer a superpower, the means was up in the air.

As to those countries he listed, they are the ones he thinks have enough 'power' (military, economy, general clout on the world stage).

Re Urist is dead tome: Too true.

[Earthquake Damage]

I was trying to figure out what that you were referring to.

I meant England, but guessing France and Spain makes a good (if inadvertent) point:  If anyone in Europe had the capacity to become a superpower in the next, say, 50 years, I'd expect it to be the EU as a whole rather than any member state.  So let's call England a derp on my part.

And by handle I mean drive the economy of the world.

Gotcha.

I should add that I originally thought "handle" meant "had the institutions/experience/whatever" to manage hegemony status and/or govern an empire.  England, as a former hegemon, made a good of example of a country that could "handle" it.  As for being in the position to become one, I wouldn't bet any money on it.

[Leafsnail]

(who are hyper-manly on a 300 level, if you catch my drift)

Hehehehe.

Well I can't remember the name of the news site so I gotta count this one as a loss. But I for one, will always love America. And I think that if this country were to fall than only a few other countries would be able to handle the economical responsibilities. China, Russia (Maybe.), and India(Maybe.) Those are the only other countries who could handle the position as THE world superpower. And if the did they would not be so charitable.

Yeah, wasn't it terrible how Australia, Europe, Canada, Japan, South Korea and so on were consumed in a black hole last week?

And I believe that America is very good to more impoverished countries.

Lol.

Anyway, I'd like to point out that France, Germany, Spain, Britain and to some extent Portugal have all had times when they were one of the, if not the biggest superpower.  Really, I'm not even that sure what America is supposedly doing for us militarily (other than dragging us into the odd illegal war).  Of course, it's a great trading partner, but America relies on the rest of the world as much as the rest of the world relies on it in this regard.

[Lord Shonus]

The strategic role of the US in world affairs is that of the proverbial "Thousand Pound Gorilla." While, for example, the old Soviet Union could probably have defeated Western Europe, but adding the US to the mix would be too much to handle. Knowing that, for example, an attack on the ROK would mean a fight against the US as well is a strong deterrent to a would-be agressor, as there's only a few countries that have the industrial, economic, and military resources to take on the combined forces of the US and whoever they're trying to conquer in the first place.

[Urist is dead tome]

My pint was that the entire world economy would have a huge hole torn in the profits because the US DRIVES THE ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY. Australia does not have the resources. They don't have the men, if needed, to protect their overseas assets which if your gonna be a super power than you need a strong military. I think  a huge military buildup in Australia would be very unpopular and would not be allowed by Parliament. The same goes for Canada. Japan can't attack because it's unconstitutional. They could have the economy but would not be able to defend themselves or their neighbors. And South Korea? Not enough of anything.

[Leafsnail]

The world economy got on perfectly fine before the US was a superpower.  Someone else can fill the void if the US falls into the same black hole that apparently consumed the rest of the developed world.

[Urist is dead tome]

Because it was England. They had most of Africa. All of India. Sounds like a superpower to me.

[Shrugging Khan]

The degree to which americans are capable of exaggerating their importance is simply mind-blowing.