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[de5me7]

not sure if this thread is already aware of this but http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/12/can_we_imagine_a_britain_where.html

for one reason or another this issue is in uk news again.

but for all drugs, not just canabis.

i suspect if it ever got legalised in this country it would be purely for money making reasons. Save money on crime fighting, earn money on tax. However traditionally the tories would never do something like legalise a banned substance because that would be too culturally liberal.


my view is mixed. I hate canabis  for a number of reasons. Most people i know who use it, over use, and thus have either no job or a crap job, act like their iq is about 9, and have failed most of their education. Although there is no solid evidence that im aware of that suggests it is a health risk, thc is a complex drug compared with most, i dont advocate playing with fire.

I wouldnt be against people enjoying canabis like a cup of tea, a joint or two in a cafe after work. I really dont want to see being a stoner become an acceptable way of life. And i dont really want it to become another product thats always in my face. My other concern is that legalising it could potential increase abuse by people that are too young.

btw, on some of the estates that i and others i work with do youth work on its not unsual to find children under 12 stoned cos their parents smoke. Simly saying, well at least their not being beaten by drunks, does not make this ok.

the issue isnt so much that canabis is dangerous, the issue is that some folks will use it like retards. The question is, will legalising it increase or reduce the amount of people that consume an ounce or more a week, have road accidents on it and feed it to their kids?

[Grimlocke]

I personally think any mind altering and/or addictive substances should be strictely forbidden for anyone underage. The stuff takes too great a toll on their developement.

Legalising cannabis and other low addictivity, low toxicity drugs could free plenty of police force to better enforce the age limits on those things. Great benefit for avarage health and level of education, with little cost.

Of course, this would require a gouvernement with a fair level of pragmatism, which are increasingly uncommon. That, and proper education on what exactelly cannabis does.

The 'parent smoking is bad for the kids' doesnt sound quite right by the way. A parent occasionaly having a drink doesnt turn his kid into a drunk, I dont see how the same wouldnt go for smoking.

[DJ]

The issue is that you're denying stuff to everyone because some people are stupid about using it. I mean, should we ban pizza because some people lack self control and get obese and die of heart attack at 30?

[Dwarf]

not sure if this thread is already aware of this but http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2010/12/can_we_imagine_a_britain_where.html

for one reason or another this issue is in uk news again.

but for all drugs, not just canabis.

i suspect if it ever got legalised in this country it would be purely for money making reasons. Save money on crime fighting, earn money on tax. However traditionally the tories would never do something like legalise a banned substance because that would be too culturally liberal.


my view is mixed. I hate canabis  for a number of reasons. Most people i know who use it, over use, and thus have either no job or a crap job, act like their iq is about 9, and have failed most of their education. Although there is no solid evidence that im aware of that suggests it is a health risk, thc is a complex drug compared with most, i dont advocate playing with fire.

I wouldnt be against people enjoying canabis like a cup of tea, a joint or two in a cafe after work. I really dont want to see being a stoner become an acceptable way of life. And i dont really want it to become another product thats always in my face. My other concern is that legalising it could potential increase abuse by people that are too young.

btw, on some of the estates that i and others i work with do youth work on its not unsual to find children under 12 stoned cos their parents smoke. Simly saying, well at least their not being beaten by drunks, does not make this ok.

the issue isnt so much that canabis is dangerous, the issue is that some folks will use it like retards. The question is, will legalising it increase or reduce the amount of people that consume an ounce or more a week, have road accidents on it and feed it to their kids?

Would you consider being an alcoholic being an acceptable way of life?

[de5me7]

no

but i dont think negative arguements for legalisation are good.

alcohol is dangerous and legal, therefore everything possibly less dangerous than alcohol should be legal.

excessive use of alcohol is a pretty major problem in the uk, legalising canabis could potentially, but not necessarily, add another problem.

if canabis was currently legal i would not be campaigning for its ban. There is a sociological and political difference between moving from legality to illegality and vice versa.

[Shrugging Khan]

excessive use of alcohol is a pretty major problem in the uk, legalising canabis could potentially, but not necessarily, add another problem.

Actually, it's somewhat more likely to decrease alcoholism.

[Sir Pseudonymous]

excessive use of alcohol is a pretty major problem in the uk, legalising canabis could potentially, but not necessarily, add another problem.

Actually, it's somewhat more likely to decrease alcoholism.

Unless a large number of people are only drinking because pot is illegal, probably not to any noticeable degree. But "it might add another social ill, because, like, obviously it doesn't cause any problems being illegal, because that means it totally doesn't exist and stuff" is a terrible argument for keeping something that's known to be significantly less harmful illegal.

[Tyg13]

Should we let the actions of the stupid preclude normal people from having fun? I've smoked marijuana on and off for a few years, and I have no reason to believe that my cognitive functions have been impaired in any fashion. Just because there are those that smoke marijuana who are stupid, does not mean that everyone who does is stupid.

Traditionally, alcohol has been a more accepted drug due to it's legal status and deep roots in most European cultures. Weed does not have the same kind of status, and many know little about it's effects. Due to a series of political reasons, marijuana has been illegalized and combated by the War on Drugs. Thus, the "normal" people, being law-abiding citizens and being told by the government that it is bad demonize it and refuse to have anything to do with it.

The people who -do- do marijuana end up being the kind of people who live their life looking for the next high. These kinds of people generally do not value education, thus propagating the "stupid stoner" stereotype. In my opinion, if we were to legalize the drug, it would slowly gain social acceptance and, in turn, intelligent users.

And though there would still be those who abuse it, there's not really much that we can do about that. Better drug education would be a start. There are plenty of people who are cripplingly addicted to alcohol or cigarettes, and marijuana can have the same psychological effects over time. I know several people in my family who are vicious and moody when out of weed. But that doesn't mean it happens to everyone. Used in moderation, a bit of marijuana is fine, and the government should respect that.

[Neonivek]

Should we let the actions of the stupid preclude normal people from having fun?

In my country they banned a dog because a few people abused OTHER kinds of dogs.

Soo, I really don't know.

[nenjin]

I figure, like alcohol, humans discovered you could light this bush on fire and it'd make you feel funny thousands of years ago. We managed to get where we are, today, with cannabis right there with us all the way up to the 1800s.

I think the vast majority of resistance to cannabis is due to lack of exposure to what people who use it are REALLY like, and the effectiveness of many propaganda campaigns. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate reasons to keep kids off drugs until they're old enough to handle them responsibly. But consider we have commercials in the US for drunk driving, but very few commercials telling under age kids not to drink. Why? Because there's a commercial interest involved in not doing so. The government has gotten involved to the extent they've limited how alcohol can be marketed to kids. They're not pumping millions of dollars into ad campaigns telling kids not to drink.

Anyways, cannabis has been and still is a staple crop of many societies, and a couple US states since the founding. Quite a few notable first Americans grew hemp. The whole damn plant, from the extracts to the fibers to the flowers to the seeds has been used to make things humans want. If it didn't ruin us when we encountered it naturally, it's probably safe to assume your average person isn't going to kill themselves with it, or destroy societies.

Now....the stuff we've learned to create ourselves, that's an ENTIRELY different story.

[Tsarwash]

my view is mixed. I hate canabis  for a number of reasons. Most people i know who use it, over use, and thus have either no job or a crap job, act like their iq is about 9, and have failed most of their education. Although there is no solid evidence that im aware of that suggests it is a health risk, thc is a complex drug compared with most, i dont advocate playing with fire.

You could easily turn that line of thought around and say that rather than the dope making them have crap jobs and act like a fool, they underachieve anyway, and turn to dope as a consequence. Not the dope making them have a shit job, but the shit job making them use dope. There are plenty of successful motivated people who get stoned at the end of every day.

[Neonivek]

I think the vast majority of resistance to cannabis is due to lack of exposure to what people who use it are REALLY like

If it is currently illegal... then that isn't the best idea.

[Tellemurius]

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