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[Yoink]

@Greiger: hoping it turns out to be nothing serious.
Good on her for going straight to a doctor rather than waiting to see if the symptoms would clear up on their own.

[SaberToothTiger]

on the verge of a nervous breakdown right now with all thats going on in my life

[ChairmanPoo]

on the verge of a nervous breakdown right now with all thats going on in my life

Ditto. Add in existential crisis

[McTraveller]

So this 20m² half-of-a-duplex outside of central is actually a steal at the listed $690 a month.

20 square meters? Is that a typo?  Especially at that price...

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For those in the USA too lazy to look it up, that's about 215 square feet.  My kids' bedrooms are 12ft x 10ft each - so that entire duplex is like my kids's rooms put together...

[Kagus]

So this 20m² half-of-a-duplex outside of central is actually a steal at the listed $690 a month.

20 square meters? Is that a typo?  Especially at that price...

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For those in the USA too lazy to look it up, that's about 215 square feet.  My kids' bedrooms are 12ft x 10ft each - so that entire duplex is like my kids's rooms put together...

Nope, that's legit. For one person, that's pretty much the best you're gonna get if you enjoy being able to actually pay your rent. Hell, my GF's apartment is 22m², and that's split between two adults and two chihuahuas.

And considering that the other apartment was newly renovated, included some furnishings (such as fridge), and had several other payments (water, sewage, trash disposal) factored in? Yes, $690 is a ridiculously good price. The kind you immediately get skeptical about, because there's clearly some sort of weird shit going on to make it cost so little (in this case, the wackjob owner). Also the building as a whole ended up being a, uh... Triplex? Fuck if I know. But my apartment was the smallest one of the three rental properties there, the other two being family-sized apartments.

Tomorrow I'm going out to make my best damn impression possible on "The Dream" apartment. All-inclusive rent except for electricity usage that isn't heating (meaning about $20 or so a month), fully furnished with fridge/micro/dishwasher/washing machine/dryer, everything seems to be up to code, again newly renovated, physically cannot get more central than this building...

18m², just about $907 a month. Plus the electrical bill, so total monthly payments are gonna pretty much be $927 on the dot. That's, again, a really good price.


You want something bigger? Okay. 26m² 2-room apartment with reasonably central location (about a kilometer's difference plus a bridge): $930 a month. Plus all electrical. Plus internet/TV. Unfurnished.

[bloop_bleep]

And considering that the other apartment was newly renovated, included some furnishings (such as fridge), and had several other payments (water, sewage, trash disposal) factored in? Yes, $690 is a ridiculously good price.

I thought like 10 people lived in the entirety of Norway. What is this crap.

[Kagus]

I'm not even in the capital. I had a friend who lived in a central apartment in the capital. Fairly decent size place though, two bedrooms with kitchen+living room.

Intended for two people, but they got a third roommate because the rent was $2790 a month.

[ChairmanPoo]

What are wages like in Norway? I find it ludicrously expensive.

[Dunamisdeos]

My 3-year old kid (He's like 90% nonverbal to boot) had some kind of motherf****** Peele-level horror shit-show of a nightmare last night.

He woke up and started flipping his goddam wig, and was afraid to get out of bed and pointing around the room in terror, and was also trying to get hugs for comfort but also refused to look at my face (he was actually kicking at me to get me away from him, but then flipping out and trying to get me to come back for hugs, repeat), we eventually had to settle on giving me hugs from behind for about 20m. I sort of had to gently-but-forcibly pick him up from the front and make him realize I am his normal dad face and not whatever the fuck he thought I was. He was also afraid to turn on the lights because he was sure something was hiding in his room/somewhere in the house, and also wanted to go outside because he thought his mama was outside and needed some kind of help, and we had to open all the windows to make sure nothing was outside and also that the lights themselves were just lights not not something scary and walk around the whole house with all the lights on and check under everything before he stopped hyperventilating.

We got to have talks about dreams and them not being real after he finally was able to work through it all, and then he was like whew ok, ok i got this and we went back to sleep.

[TamerVirus]

What are wages like in Norway?

I assume the minimum wage is 2 3 pickled herrings and a boiled potato

[Kagus]

What are wages like in Norway? I find it ludicrously expensive.

Well, uh... I could probably check and give you a pretty damn exact estimate, on account of tax records being made public. So, yeah, you can log in to the national tax registry and just look at all the taxable income (and nontaxable registered income) a person had 2+ years ago... But it does leave a footprint behind saying that you checked them out.

And since that would be kinda awkward and I don't feel like being awkward right now, I'm just gonna say that I'm pretty low on the list due to living on permanent welfare. After (31%) income taxes, I get just over 16,000 NOK a month. My girlfriend, working full-time handling orders and data entry at a major bakery, makes closer to 40,000 (gross, not net. I'm pretty sure of that, anyways).


There is no universal minimum wage, but there are "agreed-upon industry standards" for various branches. Also the wage-haggling on hiring that happens in the states more or less doesn't exist here, what with how difficult it is to cheat someone out of the publicly-viewable wage that everyone else is clearly getting.

Actually, fuck it, just read the article I was about to start quoting from like I knew a damn shit.

[scourge728]

There is no universal minimum wage, but there are "agreed-upon industry standards" for various branches. Also the wage-haggling on hiring that happens in the states more or less doesn't exist here, what with how difficult it is to cheat someone out of the publicly-viewable wage that everyone else is clearly getting.

This is some good idea, we need some of that idea in the States

[Kagus]

There is no universal minimum wage, but there are "agreed-upon industry standards" for various branches. Also the wage-haggling on hiring that happens in the states more or less doesn't exist here, what with how difficult it is to cheat someone out of the publicly-viewable wage that everyone else is clearly getting.

This is some good idea, we need some of that idea in the States

Yeah... If you ever wanna freak a Norwegian out, just start talking about how wages are handled in the US. They have no idea what to do with the information and will think you're pulling their leg.

[ChairmanPoo]

*shrug* I have a pretty ludicrous wage (I'm fairly sure that higher than I would in Norway) but I find those rental prices as ruinous. On the other hand I checked wikipedia and the average wages in Ireland (or Spain for that matter) are far lower than the average wages in Norway... which would still struggle to cope with those prices, I surmise.

I think I'm pretty much an outlier in my environment insofar as I've never needed to share my living space.

[Kagus]

Yeah, well, you're a medical doctor.

You actually are made out of money.