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[redwallzyl]

China WTF! that's downright Orwellian!

Extra Credits latest video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

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China has gamified being an obedient citizen with the creation of Sesame Credit. The game links to your social network and gives you a score for doing things that the government approves of, but it also reduces that score for doing things the government disapproves of. Even your friends' scores affect your own, and being friends with people who have a low score will drag your score down as well. This insidious system applies social pressure on people to ostracize their friends with lower scores, either forcing those friends to change their ways or effectively quarantining their rebellious ideas. While many sci-fi visions of a dystopian future have centered around a bleak government that controls through fear, Sesame Credit shows us that a government can use gamification and positive reinforcement to be just as controlling. And it's real. While currently the system is opt-in, the government plans to make it mandatory in 2020. Once mandatory, it may give rewards for good scores or penalties for bad ones. And in the meantime, making it opt-in has already set the tone for the game: people participate willingly, so they find it fun, and they set a very high standard for what the "average" score should be. Already people have begun sharing their scores on social media.

[Loud Whispers]

China WTF! that's downright Orwellian!

Extra Credits latest video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

if you don't what to watch the video here's the description:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

China has gamified being an obedient citizen with the creation of Sesame Credit. The game links to your social network and gives you a score for doing things that the government approves of, but it also reduces that score for doing things the government disapproves of. Even your friends' scores affect your own, and being friends with people who have a low score will drag your score down as well. This insidious system applies social pressure on people to ostracize their friends with lower scores, either forcing those friends to change their ways or effectively quarantining their rebellious ideas. While many sci-fi visions of a dystopian future have centered around a bleak government that controls through fear, Sesame Credit shows us that a government can use gamification and positive reinforcement to be just as controlling. And it's real. While currently the system is opt-in, the government plans to make it mandatory in 2020. Once mandatory, it may give rewards for good scores or penalties for bad ones. And in the meantime, making it opt-in has already set the tone for the game: people participate willingly, so they find it fun, and they set a very high standard for what the "average" score should be. Already people have begun sharing their scores on social media.

Haahaa... Ha...

We must save Hong Kong

[MrRoboto75]

I love how people can somehow believe that the climate isn't changing. I mean, really? Denial is a stage of grief, I suppose.

Its just el nino acting up.

[Loud Whispers]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-34592186
A lengthy planning document from China's elite State Council explains that social credit will "forge a public opinion environment that trust-keeping is glorious", warning that the "new system will reward those who report acts of breach of trust".
A national database will merge a wide variety of information on every citizen, assessing whether taxes and traffic tickets have been paid, whether academic degrees have been rightly earned and even, it seems, whether females have been instructed to take birth control.
Credit systems build trust between all citizens, Wen Quan says.
"Without a system, a conman can commit a crime in one place and then do the same thing again in another place. But a credit system puts people's past history on the record. It'll build a better and fairer society," she promises.


better and fairer
better and fairer
better and fairer

[Orange Wizard]

That sounds... Orwellian.

[TheBiggerFish]

That sounds... Orwellian.

[redwallzyl]

That sounds... Orwellian.

-10 points for spreading anti party propaganda. you lose 1 Mbps download speed for falling to low in score.

[Orange Wizard]

Hang on, that means my download speed is now like -500 Kbps? How does that even work?

[MaximumZero]

You must give your internet to the people to redeem yourself.

[Orange Wizard]

noooooooooooooooo

[Tawa]

noooooooooooooooo

do not want

[Cthulufaic]

relevant(or not)
But damn, that sounds... uhh...
Well, at least we can safely say we are in the future after this.

[redwallzyl]

Hang on, that means my download speed is now like -500 Kbps? How does that even work?

like in communism, the shortfall is generously taken care of by your coworkers. each one will be individually informed of their contribution and a list provided to you so you can thank them.

[Rolan7]

Well, at least we can safely say we are in the future after this.

Except that 1984 was like 20 years ago.
Wait... 30?
Shit, we *are* in the future.

[Egan_BW]

I won't admit to living in the future until I'm standing on another planet or my arms are made of metal, whichever comes first.