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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10725 on: November 29, 2014, 01:40:14 pm »

I live in a country where regular polygamy is apparently only slightly frowned upon, sorry. Can't help you. :P

It sounds like a load of absolute bull. Apart from the thing about obesity reducing the attractiveness of most women to most men.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10726 on: November 29, 2014, 01:46:36 pm »

That's sexist as fuck. And off-the-hook crazy. And, worst of all, it has nothing to do with game theory!

E: Well argumented, eloquent and clever? Where?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10727 on: November 29, 2014, 01:52:44 pm »

He seems like a Redpiller.

On Reddit I tag those people as "probably a rapist".

No offence.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10728 on: November 29, 2014, 02:01:14 pm »

That's sexist as fuck. And off-the-hook crazy. And, worst of all, it has nothing to do with game theory!

E: Well argumented, eloquent and clever? Where?
On further consideration after the initial shock, you are right. It's not clever in the slightest, rude, and is based solely upon unsubstantiated interpretation of common knowledge. That is, while I agree that both female obesity and the tendency of the more sexually liberated women to go straight for the top and not settle for mediocrity do exist, although to what extent is, in the latter case, debatable, this entire post is just taking these facts and running off with them right into the tinfoil-hat conspirationist territory. I am just having a hard time believing that this inane drivel was written by a man who has made a name for himself producing otherwise well-argumented, clever and eloquent posts.

EDIT: And reading Mr. Karlin's other posts about "gender relations", it strikes me that they are, if not exceptional, at least something a normal human being would write. I mean, I disagree with most of the author's views, especially on the topic of his belief in the dominance of human "biodiversity" over culture and the causation between female obesity and feminism, but at least those of his views that don't concern obesity are presented in a rational manner, supported by facts, and are not just idiotic ramblings like the post I've mentioned above.

Now I honestly don't know what to think of that either. Was Anatoly simply drunk when he posted this? Does he just not like fat women? Most Russians are fairly conservative when it comes to gender roles, yes, but this is just bottom-level dudebro-asshole rambling!

Considering that the openly sexist, and not just typically Russian gender-conservative, posts of his are limited, temporally, to the summer of 2012, I theorise that they were the result of a bad breakup, after which mr. Karlin went on a "revenge sex" binge and needed to morally justify his actions to himself, hence the "evil, self-serving women" and "all cool dudes screw a lot" messages.

Edited again due to erroneous wording.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 04:10:15 pm by Knit tie »
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10729 on: November 29, 2014, 03:20:42 pm »

That's sexist as fuck. And off-the-hook crazy. And, worst of all, it has nothing to do with game theory!

E: Well argumented, eloquent and clever? Where?
On further consideration after the initial shock, you are right. It's not clever in the slightest, rude, and is based solely upon unsubstantiated interpretation of common knowledge. That is, while I agree that both female obesity and the tendency of the more sexually liberated women to go straight for the top and not settle for mediocrity do exist, although to what extent is, in the latter case, debatable, this entire post is just taking these facts and running off with them right into the tinfoil-hat conspirationist territory. I am just having a hard time believing that this inane drivel was written by a man who has made a name for himself producing otherwise well-argumented, clever and eloquent posts.

EDIT: And reading Mr. Karlin's other posts about "gender relations", it strikes me that they are, if not exceptional, at least something a normal human being would write. I mean, I disagree with most of the author's views, especially on the topic of his belief in the prevalence of human "biodiversity" over culture and the causation between female obesity and feminism, but at least they are presented in a rational manner, supported by facts, and are not just idiotic ramblings like the post I've mentioned above.

Now I honestly don't know what to think of that either. Was Anatoly simply drunk when he posted this? Does he just not like fat women? Most Russians are fairly conservative when it comes to gender roles, yes, but this is just bottom-level dudebro-asshole rambling.

Considering that the openly sexist, and not just typically Russian gender-conservative, posts of his are limited, temporally, to the summer of 2012, I theorise that they were the result of a bad breakup, after which mr. Karlin went on a "revenge sex" binge and needed to morally justify his actions to himself, hence the "evil, self-serving women" and "all cool dudes screw a lot" messages.

The bold is literally impossible. There is no rational argument that states "all feminists are fatties." Perhaps you are confusing complete and utter stereotyping bullshit with facts.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10730 on: November 29, 2014, 03:40:48 pm »

The bold is literally impossible. There is no rational argument that states "all feminists are fatties." Perhaps you are confusing complete and utter stereotyping bullshit with facts.
I agree - it's complete, as we call it in Russia, "ложь, пиздёж и провокация," or lies, bullshit and provocation. I could've worded the previous post better, I don't think any of AK's posts on fatness are worth the time needed to read them, but his posts on rape and equity vs. gender feminism are not bad.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10731 on: November 29, 2014, 03:48:44 pm »

The bold is literally impossible. There is no rational argument that states "all feminists are fatties." Perhaps you are confusing complete and utter stereotyping bullshit with facts.
I agree - it's complete, as we call it in Russia, "ложь, пиздёж и провокация," or lies, bullshit and provocation. I could've worded the previous post better, I don't think any of AK's posts on fatness are worth the time needed to read them, but his posts on rape and equity vs. gender feminism are not bad.

no they aren't, and you don't do much better agreeing with an MRA on rape or any other similar topic.

Look, I'm not going to take the time to read that bullshit, I get that stuff sent to me personally on tumblr.

Women are individuals, any dude that tries to explain them to you as anything but that, or tries to justify rape or come up with some kind of formula on how the victim could get raped less, is filth.

Rapists rape, that is all that there is to it. Is this person a rapist? They are going to rape someone.

I don't even know what he said on rape but I can make pretty good guesses since, as someone said earlier, he sounds like a redpiller.

The least knowledgeable person on the subject of women is going to be a man, but more importantly, a man that hates women to begin with.

Why not actually research this stuff instead of just being told what is right. Basing your beliefs on stereotypes created by men about women is just willful ignorance.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10732 on: November 29, 2014, 03:53:32 pm »

The least knowledgeable person on the subject of women is going to be a man

'kay, that one seems legit actually

explain why they should bother trying to understand if this is an universal truth?

looks like a big ol' waste of time
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10733 on: November 29, 2014, 03:59:00 pm »

The least knowledgeable person on the subject of women is going to be a man

'kay, that one seems legit actually

explain why they should bother trying to understand if this is an universal truth?

looks like a big ol' waste of time

Your right, you shouldn't spend time trying to understand half of the human race. It's a complete waste, they are little more than property, anyway.

If you want to learn about women, why not go to the source?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10734 on: November 29, 2014, 04:01:27 pm »

the local farmers must really appreciate the source of strawmen

you just keep piling them on, how high can you go

actually no, are you a woman? am i to extrapolate that all women strawmen this much? because i have seen women that don't strawman so hard. because i am super obviously a man i must've seen them wrong though, right?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10735 on: November 29, 2014, 04:03:44 pm »

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I am referring to Mr. Karlin's two posts about the incidence of rape, in which he analyses the statistics of sexual assault cases in the USA in the years 1960-2009, condemns MRM's actions as "chauvinist hysteria" and not once tries to be a rape apologist. I consider these posts to be head and shoulders above the screeding lunacy of his post about the "Game theory".
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10736 on: November 29, 2014, 04:06:29 pm »

Why not actually research this stuff instead of just being told what is right.
If you want to learn about women, why not go to the source?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10737 on: November 29, 2014, 04:13:50 pm »

Why not actually research this stuff instead of just being told what is right.
If you want to learn about women, why not go to the source?
???

Also, smeeprocket, if you refuse to read AK's posts like you claimed you do, how can you criticise them?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10738 on: November 29, 2014, 04:52:31 pm »

the local farmers must really appreciate the source of strawmen

you just keep piling them on, how high can you go

actually no, are you a woman? am i to extrapolate that all women strawmen this much? because i have seen women that don't strawman so hard. because i am super obviously a man i must've seen them wrong though, right?

I realize you just learned the term strawman from your freshman debate club but that doesn't mean it is applicable to everything.

I don't understand why this is a point of contention. Are you so positive women can do absolutely nothing better than men that even being in the know about what it is like to be a woman is too much for you?

Really?

A cis-gendered man has never had the experience of being a woman. It would be like a white dude telling black dudes what it is like to be black. He doesn't know. He has never been that thing which he professes to be an expert on. He is not speaking from a position of experience.

I not sure what part of my post was strawman-y, but if you could explain things in a way that a half-literate woman such as myself might understand, perhaps in a less aggressive masculine manner (all that anger frightens me and makes me cry) I would appreciate it.

Knit Tie, you get tired of reading MRA stuff after awhile. I used to surf around on 4chan and debate things like whether women secretly wanted to be raped or not or if it was even a big deal. The usual MRA filth stuff. He was described earlier as a "redpiller" This is an MRA term that references the Matrix. Basically it means he is in touch with the "reality" of women and is immune to their evil machinations. I actually learned this term reading about it from a feminist who had a date that referred to himself as such. She looked it up in the bathroom on her phone, cut the date short, and he assaulted her on her way to her car because she didn't want to fuck him. (she got away luckily.)

Reading that stuff is exhausting. It's mentally draining. It's enough for me that he thinks all feminists are fat. That pretty much clarifies his values.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #10739 on: November 29, 2014, 05:06:06 pm »

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A cis-gendered man has never had the experience of being a woman. It would be like a white dude telling black dudes what it is like to be black.

That is rather racist. There is no difference between a black person and a white person, other than colour and small physical things.
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