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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5310 on: October 03, 2013, 01:36:07 am »

I still find it hard to believe airship technology hasn't progressed an iota in the last century. I mean, we can at the very least construct them entirely from non-flammable materials.

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5311 on: October 03, 2013, 01:37:16 am »

I still find it hard to believe airship technology hasn't progressed an iota in the last century. I mean, we can at the very least construct them entirely from flammable materials.

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5312 on: October 03, 2013, 01:37:31 am »

I still find it hard to believe airship technology hasn't progressed an iota in the last century. I mean, we can at the very least construct them from non-flammable materials.

Aluminum is flammable?
Aluminum attracts lightning.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5313 on: October 03, 2013, 02:38:16 am »

Aluminum isn't areal world you 'murrican troglodytes. :V
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5314 on: October 03, 2013, 03:27:11 am »

Aluminium is very much flammable - that's why Thermite works. It's a great counter for 9/11 crazies, because almost nobody knows that the WTC was built using aluminium parts.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5315 on: October 03, 2013, 09:02:05 am »

My internet is back online after a storm..... and this is the only site that the internet will let me access.  :o google won't connect and neither will other services but bay12forums will not die.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5316 on: October 03, 2013, 09:03:28 am »

My internet is back online after a storm..... and this is the only site that the internet will let me access.  :o google won't connect and neither will other services but bay12forums will not die.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5317 on: October 03, 2013, 09:57:11 am »

Basically, bay12 doesn't -need- the internet, because it's a shared hallucination.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5318 on: October 03, 2013, 12:43:29 pm »

Basically, bay12 doesn't -need- the internet, because it's a shared hallucination.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5319 on: October 03, 2013, 12:52:11 pm »

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5320 on: October 03, 2013, 01:03:58 pm »

About freight blimps:

First: Aluminium is flammable, and is actually used as a part of rocket fuel. It only ignites at very high temperatures though, so that doesn't matter. ((For that matter, most matter burns at sufficient temperature))
Second: A lightning strike is not capable of igniting an airship, as long as the hull is not flammable / breached. Hydrogen needs oxygen to burn. Pure hydrogen won't ignite
Third: The same for every other ignition source. I mean, smoking was allowed in the Hindenburg. (Though only in a pressurized room, to prevent ignition if a leak would occur)
Fourth: We do have significant improvements in materials. We can use Compression systems to prevent the need to vent hydrogen*, we can build mostly fireproof compartments, and the hull won't be flammable**
Fifth: We can design save airships from the beginning. The Hindenburg was the only airship that crashed due to ignition***, mainly because it was initially designed to fly using helium. It therefore had some unfortunate design choices, which allowed vented hydrogen to accumulate and ignite. The previous airship, The Graf Zeppelin, used a volatile, just as heavy as air fuel, but never had any trouble despite it's lengthy service lifetime. The worst dangers for airships were storms and navigation troubles. They're not that strong, and during  a storm the instruments were often inaccurate, leading to an unscheduled landing.

*If it never mixes, it doesn't ignite
**Note: The Hindenburg was flammable, but it was not coated in thermite, or whatever silly things you read on the internet.
***Not counting military airships that were actively or passively being shot at. Or airships that first crashed, then burned.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5321 on: October 03, 2013, 01:19:06 pm »

My internet is back online after a storm..... and this is the only site that the internet will let me access.  :o google won't connect and neither will other services but bay12forums will not die.
I've had that with a few sites. Hamachi too. Even without a connection they keep working.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5322 on: October 03, 2013, 01:23:15 pm »

My internet is back online after a storm..... and this is the only site that the internet will let me access.  :o google won't connect and neither will other services but bay12forums will not die.
I've had that with a few sites. Hamachi too. Even without a connection they keep working.
Means they're cashed. Should only be a static image of the website, won't update.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5323 on: October 03, 2013, 03:28:04 pm »

*If it never mixes, it doesn't ignite
**Note: The Hindenburg was flammable, but it was not coated in thermite, or whatever silly things you read on the internet.
***Not counting military airships that were actively or passively being shot at. Or airships that first crashed, then burned.
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Using the same compounds used in the Hindenburg's paint, the MythBusters discovered that they could combine to form highly incendiary thermite. However, the actual proportions of components in the paint burned too slowly to match the film footage of the Hindenburg disaster. A scale model of the Hindenburg using the same paint and placed in a hydrogen-rich environment took about a minute to burn and did look very similar to the original events. In the end, they concluded that the Hindenburg's demise could be attributed to both the hydrogen and the paint, and they agreed that the paint by itself was not responsible for the rapid burning of the airship. They also pointed out that if actual thermite covered the Hindenburg, it would make the airship too heavy to fly.

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #5324 on: October 03, 2013, 03:29:51 pm »

Yeah, I believe they used iron oxide in the paint for it's anti-mold properties, and aluminum somewhere else in the paint.
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