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[LeoLeonardoIII]

There's a difference between defining a word and defining an idea: word definitions easily get down the point where you run out of language to describe them. The concept of meaning requires intelligent things to consider something and attribute meaning to it. Meaning, like justice and honor, do not exist except as theoretical constructs in the minds of intelligent things.

Claiming that the ability to think grants significance is like a tiger claiming that the ability to sprint or shred things with your claws is significant. Of course humans believe thinking is significant; because we do it best as far as we know. If tigers were in charge they'd consider tigers more significant than humans because humans can barely shred anything with our puny fingernails. Similarly, a donut could be significant because of its sugar content - but why does sugar matter?

It doesn't.

[SalmonGod]

Meaning is only meaningless from a perspective that is unlike ours, removed from any sense of context, motivation, or sentient experience, which is a perspective that we can only ponder as a hypothetical invention, and only as an intentional opposite to our own frame of reference.

In other words, yeah, our meaning is nothing to the objective universe, but we also have no reason to care about the universe's objectivity.  A thing without meaning is hardly a thing at all.  The sun would exist without us, but without our observation, it is not large or hot or old or even separate from other objects.  These are all features that we define from within a frame of reference that does not exist without us.

[Bauglir]

@Hyper-Leo

I'm mostly in this for being silly, you realize. I'm far too distracted to make a genuine argument about what boils down to semantics.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Sorry I was hyper :/
The voices made me type fast.
They whisper.

[Bauglir]

I'm also tired, and unclear as a consequence. I meant hyper in terms of the many Leos in your SN. You are Leo compounded upon Leo.

[MaximumZero]

I just realized that even though the metal (In the astronomical sense: IE anything heavier than helium) content of the sun is only 1.4% of its mass, it still outweighs every planet and moon in the solar system combined. Hell, it's 4662 times the mass of the earth. I feel small and insignificant now.

Welcome to knowing things about space.

[Vorthon]

I just realized that even though the metal (In the astronomical sense: IE anything heavier than helium) content of the sun is only 1.4% of its mass, it still outweighs every planet and moon in the solar system combined. Hell, it's 4662 times the mass of the earth. I feel small and insignificant now.

Welcome to knowing things about space.

I'm not new to knowing things about space, but it's the first time I've really, really, really thought about the scales involved in stars. Sure, I've seen plenty of those star-scale things, but the sheer idea that there's more iron, carbon, and such in the sun than the rest of the solar system is kind of sobering.

[scrdest]

That's smog? I thought it were clouds...

Could be clouds too since they are so high up, but the general gray fog-like haziness that can be seen at several points in the video, most notably when they are scaling the crane, is probably general smog from whatever smog-belching alien horrors China gets their smog from.

Spoiler: China has a bit of a problem with air pollution. (click to show/hide)

It looks like somebody accidentally swapped a presentation on suggested environmental policy with a copy of Silent Hill.

[IronTomato]

We got a couple new cats.

My brother named one Swag...

[Helgoland]

"Memento mori. Yolo, Swag." Damn, Altum Videtur kicks in hard.

[Frumple]

... wouldn't it be yolnt if it were a cat? Yolint's not a bad sound for a cat name, anyway.

Neither's yolo, but one should keep to the silly cultural things.

[Iceblaster]

Oh god roaches are hard to kill 

[Frumple]

N... not really? Not for anything human sized, anyway. Just. Decent weighted flat surface. Disliked book, shoe, whatever. Apply with decent force.

Bigger problem than killing them is keeping the insides from spraying all over the place. Blegh.

[Iceblaster]

N... not really? Not for anything human sized, anyway. Just. Decent weighted flat surface. Disliked book, shoe, whatever. Apply with decent force.

Bigger problem than killing them is keeping the insides from spraying all over the place. Blegh.

Well factor in I had to mainly use a show at 30 degree angles most of the time a couldn't get a good hit aaaand we have the reason

Plus I'm more terrified of them than anything so I wasn't able to put most of my force in. Regardless, I guess I didn't give enough info.

[Steelmagic]

See, if we're going to make judgements we need to know the full conditions of the battle. Terrain, numbers, morale, all that stuff. Roach killin' is serious business.