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blackmagechill

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Re: Something Must Be Done
« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2010, 07:06:46 pm »

Wow... I am surprised that your tactics are as bad as the school

Stalking children and harassing their parents with insults until they break down

I assume Bricks are involved, rocks, and lots of vandalism whether you intended to or not.
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Re: Something Must Be Done
« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2010, 07:07:00 pm »

Who are we kidding. This whole thing is going to blow over by tomorrow. ::)
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« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2010, 07:07:34 pm »

Your starting a campaign based on HARASSMENT at all costs because your outraged.

False.


It isn't a dip of logic to assume that people would take it seriously as proven by... well... any situation where it happened

Examples needed.


Who are we kidding. This whole thing is going to blow over by tomorrow. ::)

I hope not.
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« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2010, 07:08:05 pm »

All you need is the kids name. Then you look it up and find their address.
Other than that, persistance is needed to convince the parents that are nutjobs.

But yes, this whole thing seems hopeless. So sad.

Wow... I am surprised that your tactics are as bad as the school

Stalking children and harassing their parents with insults until they break down

I assume Bricks are involved, rocks, and lots of vandalism whether you intended to or not.
I only meant pushing the points in their face until they listen. No violence

And please. Stop trolling.
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« Reply #154 on: November 27, 2010, 07:08:33 pm »

Your starting a campaign based on HARASSMENT at all costs because your outraged.

False.


It isn't a dip of logic to assume that people would take it seriously as proven by... well... any situation where it happened

Examples needed.

Jack Thompson

He deserved it less and the campaign was a lot more innocent then "Harassing him" and yet he did actually recieve a bit of harassment.

Just scale it up and you get something quite a bit worse.

Especially since I think the legal options of PETITIONING THE LAWS TO CHANGE TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL is more likely to succeed and LESS likely to backfire then harassing everyone involved and illegally stalking minors.
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« Reply #155 on: November 27, 2010, 07:09:03 pm »

Who are we kidding. This whole thing is going to blow over by tomorrow. ::)
Only if we let it die.
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« Reply #156 on: November 27, 2010, 07:09:41 pm »

Who are we kidding. This whole thing is going to blow over by tomorrow. ::)

Or, it will be the nucleus of a massive internet-based harassment campaign, possibly involving 4chan and anonymous. Hard to tell at this point.
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Re: Something Must Be Done
« Reply #157 on: November 27, 2010, 07:11:23 pm »

You can make an industry out of f*-ing anything these days, can't you?
"Troubled Teen Industry"?
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« Reply #158 on: November 27, 2010, 07:12:33 pm »

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You can make an industry out of f*-ing anything these days, can't you?
"Troubled Teen Industry"?

Well you got a society based less off of actually raising your children with a strong counter culture that because of the parent's uninvolvement is mostly unregulated and unfiltered.

It seems like a good buisness to get into.
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« Reply #159 on: November 27, 2010, 07:13:48 pm »

I'm not sure if I should be sickened or even more enraged.
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« Reply #160 on: November 27, 2010, 07:13:55 pm »

Just scale it up and you get something quite a bit worse.

... I'm sorry, but this is the slippery slope fallacy in a nutshell.


2. Elan, while a serious shithole, is not fucking alone. That Fornits link will tell you far more than you ever wanted to know.

3. Oh you seriously haven't even scraped the fucking surface of this particular rabbit hole. You don't want to know how far down it goes. You just don't.

Exactly.  Start with one place and work to take the others down.


It seems like a good buisness to get into.

. . . Righto, moving on.
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« Reply #161 on: November 27, 2010, 07:15:16 pm »

Eugenitor's right about most of this stuff. Chanology happened, but I wanted something else to come of it... And Neonivek, this is different. Jack Thompson was a class-action asshole, and probably needed someone to do more than "quite a bit of harassment" to him. A slug in the face would've been great. That guy was fighting pop culture, which, derives it's name from popular, and would be expected to receive backlash from being a dipshit.
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« Reply #162 on: November 27, 2010, 07:15:45 pm »

I knew I had heard of other places like this.
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« Reply #163 on: November 27, 2010, 07:16:33 pm »

The recommendations were less than glowing. They were along the lines of "I probably would have died if not for going there, but I still have horrific nightmares about it." Doesn't seem like brainwashing.
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By the way: if a child really "needed" this school, they could be dealt with by the justice system.  No innocent person should have to go to something like that.

Heck, we've had reports of rape and suicides in this thread.  Noone deserves that.

By the way: not so sure about informing parents.  Are there any like... human rights bodies you can contact?  Papers you can write to?  Local representatives who are relevant?

Ohh yes... what better way to fight a horrible situation then with even worse tactics. *sarcasm*
None of the things Vector described sound worse than what the school's doing.  Heck, 2 of them aren't even illegal.

Unless you think that DDOS attacks are equivalent to rape...?
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« Reply #164 on: November 27, 2010, 07:17:38 pm »

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I'm sorry, but this is the slippery slope fallacy in a nutshell

Well you got a large group of unregulated individuals and your asking them to do illegal activities (Stalking, public disturbance, harassment)

Is it REALLY a slippery slope? How much have I jumped?

I am not talking about the writting campaign here or the Denial of Service attack (which I am against but not arguing against)... I am talking about someone's suggestion to actively stalk the parents through the child.

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And Neonivek, this is different. Jack Thompson was a class-action asshole, and probably needed someone to do more than "quite a bit of harassment" to him. A slug in the face would've been great. That guy was fighting pop culture, which, derives it's name from popular, and would be expected to receive backlash from being a dipshit

All I mean is that unregulated harassment especially with an outraged group of anominous people is a bad idea. It is asking for unwanted elements and any unfortunate event that is caused by this should be SO expected that it should be no surprise.
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