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Neonivek

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Re: Something Must Be Done
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2010, 04:17:00 pm »

why for swearing? it makes sense if it was ridicuolous amounts, but just one time seems crazy.

That's an exaggeration, but one of them did do six months for making a Facebook group for making fun of a teacher.  Or longer, I forget exactly how often it happened, but juvenile courts have the authority to unilaterally extend sentences, with the crooked judge's permission, so a lot of them stayed a long time.

Remind me of that show where a Kid accidently, trying to slug a student, slugged a teacher in the face

The Kid narrates to the screen that if she struck her she would probably just get detention. But striking a teacher actually sent her to Juvies.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2010, 04:17:18 pm »

Remember this is Michael Moore, he blows stuff out of proportion for a living, so take that with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2010, 04:18:03 pm »

The article Aquizzar linked was not Michael Moore.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2010, 04:19:15 pm »

I was referring to an earlier post.
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2010, 04:20:12 pm »

I know, and I did. I couldn't stand the rest of the movie. It's like watching Glenn Beck backwards.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2010, 04:21:39 pm »

Yeah.
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2010, 04:22:20 pm »

That is disgusting. Suspension of children's sixth amendment rights? Ugh.

Minors don't really have the same rights as adults.
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Re: Something Must Be Done
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2010, 04:22:55 pm »

Minors can be prosecuted without legal representation?
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2010, 04:23:36 pm »

Well, Snopes has nothing to say about this as a hoax, and it's a real place in Maine. Elan School website

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Dear Parents:

We are very aware of how lonely and confused you must feel as you sit down to read this.

(Image: Elan School helps parents in need of teenager intervention)

If you are like the parents of most of our students, you are faced with an adolescent whose behavior is out of control, and you don't know why. A youngster who has been given everything and is throwing it away is difficult to understand, but you can see that this process is progressive. The most saddening part is knowing that your offspring is ruining his or her future. Your own pain is difficult, but your pain for your child is unbearable.

By coming to Elan, you have come to a truly different school. We cannot offer you miracles, but we can offer you hope. We know your journey to this point has been painful. We hope Elan School can change its course.

Sharon Terry
Executive Director
Elan School

Sounds about as creepy as I might expect, from an advertisement for what the kid was talking about.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2010, 04:24:51 pm »

That is disgusting. Suspension of children's sixth amendment rights? Ugh.

Minors don't really have the same rights as adults.
Unfourtunatly..
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2010, 04:26:45 pm »

Remember this is Michael Moore, he blows stuff out of proportion for a living, so take that with a grain of salt.
I know, and I did. I couldn't stand the rest of the movie. It's like watching Glenn Beck backwards.

Nice to know the operational principle - "Michael Moore said its real and bad, therefor the opposite must be true" - is alive and well.
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2010, 04:29:32 pm »

Personally I don't know why people are mad at Michael Moore

Frankly looking at modern documentary styles... Michael Moore is a bastion of truth by comparison

Every single documentary I see now... the world NEEDS to end somehow.
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Solifuge

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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2010, 04:29:36 pm »

I don't know how much this corraborates anything, but this is about as specific as the school's pages get on their procedures:

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Our School:
* Accepts adolescents with emotional, behavioral or adjustment problems
* Is a co-educational, independent, residential, special-purpose school, serving grades 8 through 12
* Uses a Life Skills Curriculum that teaches students to permanently change attitudes and life patterns
* Provides intensive group sessions; individual sessions are on an as-needed basis

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Peer pressure and support teaches and enforces constructive behavior. Students learn that they must earn what they want and that they must give to receive. The peer-oriented social structure is vital to the Elan concept. Students learn to take direction, accept criticism without taking it personally, criticize constructively, give orders reasonably, and care for and work with others; they also learn that their self-esteem is not dependent upon the acceptance of others.

Huh.
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blackmagechill

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2010, 04:30:44 pm »

Remember this is Michael Moore, he blows stuff out of proportion for a living, so take that with a grain of salt.
I know, and I did. I couldn't stand the rest of the movie. It's like watching Glenn Beck backwards.

Nice to know the operational principle - "Michael Moore said its real and bad, therefor the opposite must be true" - is alive and well.
I actually feel more aligned with Michael Moore politically, but he's as much of a prick as the guys at Faux.
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2010, 04:33:22 pm »

That is disgusting. Suspension of children's sixth amendment rights? Ugh.

Minors don't really have the same rights as adults.
That's funny, last time I checked, the sixth amendment said nothing about age or being a legal adult:
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Emphasis mine.
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