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Tastysaurus Rex

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Bogeymen
« on: November 26, 2010, 10:25:33 pm »

surrounded me, cornered me at a lake and beat me to death with their bare hands.

I've had this version for all of ten minutes and I fucking love it.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 10:44:35 pm »

Dodged into a river while fighting them and drowned.

And for some reason the sea lamprey we landed on only attacked me rather than the juicy, juicy creatures of darkness.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 11:12:48 pm »

I actually got lucky and all the Cougars went after the Bogeymen. Whether they stood a chance is another matter entirely.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 01:59:59 am »

My demigod human, slayer of many goblins, rested one tile outside of a peasant's house.  The bogeymen came anyway, and started slaughtering the humans.  I lasted one turn before they knocked me down and stomped my head in instantly.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 02:01:51 am »

I actually got lucky and all the Cougars went after the Bogeymen. Whether they stood a chance is another matter entirely.
Something like this happened to me.
As I was running from about 5 of them a tiger came up to me, so I slashe it in the leg and kept moving. However, all the bogeymen suddenly ignored me and attacked the tiger, making it easy to go around the edge picking them off.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 04:06:33 am »

I don't think you can outrun them, either.

As a Grand Master Ambusher, I've hidden right as the message appears, and weave in and out between them, walking in one direction hoping they'll lose track of me. 
You get plenty of "The Bogeyman has vanished" messages as you move away, but it seems like they just reappear closer to you.  I usually just stop to kill them now.


On another note, my naked barbarion man was able to consistently bite their entire heads off, which is so awesome you don't even know.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 04:18:41 am »

I don't think you can outrun them, either.

As a Grand Master Ambusher, I've hidden right as the message appears, and weave in and out between them, walking in one direction hoping they'll lose track of me. 
You get plenty of "The Bogeyman has vanished" messages as you move away, but it seems like they just reappear closer to you.  I usually just stop to kill them now.
Ok, so I'm not the only one getting this impression. Whey Bogeymen come out for me I either make it to a house or die horribly. There is no other outcome. Can anybody elaborate on this line of thought?
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 04:20:58 am »

If you have someone else in your party, Bogeymen won't come after you at night.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 04:23:30 am »

Also Dwarves are better able to handle bogeymen than most due to combat trances.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 04:28:03 am »

If you have someone else in your party, Bogeymen won't come after you at night.
Yeah, I figured out that much. But if your brother in arms dies at a site there's nothing you can do until you reach civilization again. Which is when they get me.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2010, 04:39:24 am »

Ok, so I'm not the only one getting this impression. Whey Bogeymen come out for me I either make it to a house or die horribly. There is no other outcome. Can anybody elaborate on this line of thought?

If you are attacked by Bogeyman right before the sun comes up, you can survive if you run away.  They will vanish once the sun rises.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2010, 04:54:49 am »

Lairs make good hideouts from bogeymen, it's the camps that are a problem.
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Re: Bogeymen
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 08:04:40 am »

they are nigh unkillable unless you are a dwarf and lucky. the real problem in killing them is their nigh invincibility. they will dodge nearly everything you throw. however, a martial trance nearly removes this obstacle. i murdered at least 10 of them one night. as soon as they sprung on me, i hit a martial trance. walked through them like they weren't there with my axe.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2010, 09:18:18 am »

they are nigh unkillable unless you are a dwarf and lucky. the real problem in killing them is their nigh invincibility. they will dodge nearly everything you throw. however, a martial trance nearly removes this obstacle. i murdered at least 10 of them one night. as soon as they sprung on me, i hit a martial trance. walked through them like they weren't there with my axe.

Are you playing "clear" DF? I'm asking because they are a lot easier to deal with in genesis mod (at least from my pov).

The main problem in "clear" version is that, while weapons are more powerful, the tissues are a lot more "pain immue"/spill a lot less blood. In order to cause somebody to pass out from pain you have to basically break/cut out basically almost every part of the body, including internal organs. Also, blood loss is very small even from piercing heart, lung, or brain; so small that the creature can "heal" the bleeding during the battle. (It basically never happened for me that somebody died due to blood loss before I killed them). This, coupled with usually crazy high dodging makes boogeyman, like cikulisu said, almost unkillable - even occasional lucky shot doesn't seem to bother them at all, even if it is bone crush of internal organ pierce.

On the contrary, for example, in genesis cutting off one arm, crushing bone from one leg and cutting off one finger from the other arm was enough to make boogeyman pass out from pain & die to blood loss. Also, blood loss and the amount of pain have some crazy high values for key internal organs, so a piercing strike to a heart (for example) means basically "game over" for you (or your enemy), unlike the "clear" version, where a pierce to a heart doesn't seem to have any big effect on effectiveness of a enemy.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 10:26:26 am »

Jump into a dry pond. Pick up mud and train your throwing skill. It's very possible that the bogeymen will end up in the pond with you from dodging flying mud, or just failing at walking around the forest at night.

I had an unskilled elf do this with little or no prior combat experience, a wooden sword and a copper dagger (think her name was "Lali Treecalm" or something). I figured this was a good a time as any to train up my throwing skill until dawn, but the bogeymen kept falling into the dry pond with me. I was able to slowly kill them through a combination of thrown mud, charging at them, and lucky kicks to the head while they were down. It took me until dawn to kill all of them and I'm still unsure how some of them were getting into the pit, other than teleportation when they disappear and reappear.
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