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What are your plans when you begin a new embark?

Build a massive, walled fort, filled with decorative eye candy.
- 18 (16.5%)
Deep, complex caverns, hiding in a cliff face, a minimalistic approach.
- 19 (17.4%)
A hybrid of the two, focusing not only on rare ores, but adequete defense.
- 21 (19.3%)
What plans?! I live on impulse and raw, dwarven, emotion!
- 51 (46.8%)

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jdturner11

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Startup Technique
« on: November 26, 2010, 11:31:16 am »

What say you?
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nordak

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 11:42:43 am »

A hole in the ground with a walled courtyard to protect outdoor activities...
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Exerpt from townbrush.txt by Internet Kraken:

"Nobody wants to live in Townbrush, and for good reason. Almost everyone that has come to Townbrush has been eaten, stabbed, crushed, drowned, hacked, incinerated, or beaten to death with an octopre skin backpack. When we're not under siege, we're being attacked by Forgotten Beasts. And when we're not being attacked by Forgotten Beasts, there's probably a zombie whale crushing someone to death in the dining room."

Urist McUristy

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 01:11:50 pm »

This needs to go into DF Dwarf Mode Discussion.
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forsaken1111

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 01:14:40 pm »

This needs to go into DF Dwarf Mode Discussion.
What is with the forum police lately? If you think a thread is misplaced then report it. Don't post for the sole purpose of telling the OP he did something wrong. That isn't your call, the moderators will take care of it.
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jdturner11

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2010, 01:16:18 pm »

Actually it is a question, should not all polls belong in this section ;)? Sorry if I misplaced it!
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Karlito

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2010, 01:28:34 pm »

This needs to go into DF Dwarf Mode Discussion.
What is with the forum police lately? If you think a thread is misplaced then report it. Don't post for the sole purpose of telling the OP he did something wrong. That isn't your call, the moderators will take care of it.

It benefits us all as players to minimize the amount of forum moderating these two have to deal with, since that leaves them more time to develop the game and live the other parts of their lives.

jdturner, this section is more for people to get help with aspects of the game they don't understand.

So anyway, I usually don't enter into a fort with any specific design plans, but I usually wall off my entrance and focus on the underground first, but as the fortress matures I'll work on expanding my aboveground defenses to control ambushes and protect merchants and my FPS. A lot of the time, I try to make my constructions fit the natural terrain, like, I usually put my entrance on top of a hill, because that makes it easier in the early game to control access just by removing some ramps.
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forsaken1111

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 01:34:25 pm »

Still it just spams the thread and does nothing, the thread is already created. Moving it would take a moderator as far as I know. A quick PM to the OP would have been ideal, as well as reporting it. No need to come stomping in, yell "You did it wrong!" and then leave without contributing.
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Urist McUristy

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 01:36:44 pm »

Is this really the place for a flamewar? How about everyone just forgets about it.
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forsaken1111

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 01:37:51 pm »

Is this really the place for a flamewar? How about everyone just forgets about it.
Sorry, you're right. I've been seeing it a lot lately but I probably should follow my own advice and just PM the person.
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jdturner11

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 01:49:53 pm »

If it gets moved, it gets moved, don't worry about what will be and focus on what is ;). I'm sure new players would love to know how experienced ones start their game off! No need to PM me :P, I'd most likely not respond as I don't check PMs often (I once lost a $3000 computer I won as a prize because I neglect PMs).

 On topic -

 Lately, I've been looking for areas with atleast two layers of sand, I love how easy it is to dig through/use for stock piles. I simply dig a 3x3 stairway quite a few layers down, designate large stockpiles for things such as stone and wood, then smaller for rare items (coins, gems). After I amass a lot of stone I create layers of a wall outside, an irrigation system for wells and farms, and quick 2x2 beds. Unfortunately, I get so engrossed with creating revenue and finding every supply possible, I forget to train military... which leads to imminent "fun". So I'd say I'm a hybrid in the poll's context.
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Namfuak

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 02:16:43 pm »

Last option is the only dwarvenly option.

But it's true, for me I sometimes go straight into a mountain and make a drawbridge as protection, sometimes I go down (especially if it's a flatland), and one time I made one between where one river ends and another began, and channeled out a square of water as a moat, then made an orthoclase block wall with aboveground farms and an orthoclase block road for traders.
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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 02:33:00 pm »

I do four things almost every single time.

1) I dig down.
2) I make a farm and food stockpile in the first room.
3) I make a wood stockpile in the second layer.
4) I build a wall.
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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 02:41:58 pm »

I have a compulsion to carve my fort out of the mountain.

"What if there is no mountain," you ask? Blasphemy. Er, I mean. I never embark to a place without a mountain.
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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 02:46:15 pm »

I go the noob route.
1. Dig hole in side of hill or directly below the embark point.
2. Dig dorfitory, meeting hall, kitchen, stockpile/work areas and farm.
3. Once that's all done, I normally block off the entrance and build a meeting zone out front with an atom smasher to dispose of immigrants.
4. Start encrusting everything with jewels and generally get greedy with it.
5. ???
6. Profit.

Also, any seiges aren't a problem since they just sit out front and don't do anything since there's no way into my fort. And my population never gets high enough for any Titan fun. I'm pretty lame with it, mostly just greedy. I need dem dorfmonies.
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ext0l

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Re: Startup Technique
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 02:50:31 pm »

ehh I don't even bother with wood stockpiles anymore. Wood is only used for beds anyways, maybe barrels. Everything else is made from zinc nickel or lead.
Usually I dig into a mountain to make defense easier. 3x30 entrance hall filled with traps and stuff  ;)
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