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Crossroads Inc.

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How do you deal with "Muck"
« on: November 24, 2010, 10:06:40 pm »

After finally building a "self cleaning system" that consisted of a waterfall that went over the entrance to my fort, I thought my days of Dwarfs covered in muck were over.
To an extent this worked, all my Dwarfs are clean and covered in water.  Bytr the bridge that the water flows through...

There are tiles with over 3 pages of "a splattering of so and so's blood" and mud and dirt and muck.  How the hell do a scrap it off the bridge and down into the river below?
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 10:09:16 pm »

Does raising the bridge work?

If not, there is a utility called dfclean that cleans stuff off the ground and walls.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 10:41:05 pm »

Well i'd have to arrange it in such a way as to dummpthe muck into the river, can you make a bridge that opens on the "side" instead of up? that would dump the muck over the edge instead of wither in the front of the fort or into the fort itself.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 11:24:51 pm »

i think dwarves will clean meeting areas

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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 11:52:29 pm »

i think dwarves will clean meeting areas
Yes, but they won't clean anything outside.

If the bridge is outside, rain will destroy the contaminants.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 01:25:30 am »

i think dwarves will clean meeting areas
Yes, but they won't clean anything outside.

If the bridge is outside, rain will destroy the contaminants.

Assuming it rains in that biome. Drier biomes get dirty fast; my outdoor washing pool managed to end up with about 5 pages of blood, ichor, and pus.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 01:52:26 am »

DFhack doesn't truly remove the contaminates.  As DF still tracks it as still there, thus not improving framerate...
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 04:58:15 am »

I always build trenches at my entrance to wash off blood and contaminants.

Just channel out a section and fill it like a pond. Fill it to around 2/7 or 3/7 and it will wash off everything that comes through it.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 05:11:23 am »

DFhack doesn't truly remove the contaminates.  As DF still tracks it as still there, thus not improving framerate...

i don't use df hack, but i was under the impression that it literally hacked the memory to delete contaminants.  This is the first time I've heard that it does not.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 06:48:19 am »

Destroy and rebuild the bridge.

It doesn't take that long :) your architect will appreciate the work.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 09:30:07 am »

i think dwarves will clean meeting areas
Yes, but they won't clean anything outside.

If the bridge is outside, rain will destroy the contaminants.

dwarves always clean blood inside, top priority over many other things

outside they ignore
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 11:21:01 am »

DFhack doesn't truly remove the contaminates.  As DF still tracks it as still there, thus not improving framerate...

What dfcleanmap does is locate all of the appropriate contaminant "objects" and set all of their levels to zero. The result is a bunch of null contaminant objects, but I found that once you save and reload the game, all of those null contaminant objects go away.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 01:40:41 pm »

For now taking apart and then rebuilding the bridge "cleaned" it in as far as all the muck dropped down into the river.  The part I am dealing with now is the walls are still covered in several pages of muck.

You know, I am all for realisim and such, but this is an instance where I wish things weren't THIS real.  Or at the least, I wish there was a way to "clean". I mean, if a Dwarf grabs a bucket, fills it with water, at the least he should be able to wash stuff from walls.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 03:30:20 pm »

I catch it to breed grimers.
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Re: How do you deal with "Muck"
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 09:47:03 pm »

I catch it to breed grimers.
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