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Oxinabox

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game freezing up every 5 seconds
« on: November 22, 2010, 09:29:24 am »

Ok, so I've seen messages posted about this before,
(But never paid attention, as it wasn't happening to me ::bashful-face::)

Basically my fortress, was going along swell,
Nice squad of of legendary warriors,
79 dwarves
I had just set up my forges/magma smelters,
I was about to get started on producing furniture for my bedrooms (according to dfprospecter, gold is the third most common mineral on this site, there are over 55,000 units of gold nuggets!)
I had just used DwarfTherapist to enable about 6 more guys with the Furnace Use labor, so I could get the melting down happening.
when it started.
I have not breached the HFS, or done anything that would cause lag, (its not the usual drop in frame rate, that you normally get), anyway.

Basically the game works smooth for about 1-5 seconds,
then freezes up for 1-5 seconds, (not responding to keyboard, if i click the window, it changes to (Not Responding) and goes grey)

The first time it happened I Ctrl+Alt+Deleted  and reloaded from my seasonal save,
but then it happened again. (The notes above about what I am doing are from the second time, but as far as i remember i did pretty similar the first).

This has happened before in this World.
but last time was on a reclaim, and reclaims have more bugs than most parts of DF, so i thought little of it, and just abandoned. (The reclaim also had HUGE amounts of stuff everywhere, it was a big fortress that fell, so its framerate was expected to be abit low)

I have the save, but it's on my other computer.
I'll upload it tomorrow, if anyone wants to check it out

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Version 31.18
using Maydays dfg version. (with his tileset preinstalled)
Heavy use of DT,
used dfHack's dvdig.exe for the first time on this map. (didn't use it the first time the bug occurred, on my reclaim map)
No modifications, other than some custom profiles, minor changes to announcements.txt,
and init to turn on seasonal autosave.
(I haven't even turned on the usual fps optimising stuff, like temp and the graphics framerate)
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LordSlowpoke

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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 10:04:46 am »

...What EXACTLY did you do using DT?
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Barrow

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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 10:18:22 am »

I also had this issue crop up the other day, no usage of any utilities. I was able to resolve the hiccups, but unfortunately in my haste I wasn't very scientific about the process.

From what I recall, I canceled a number of recent jobs I had created, as well as reclaiming all the items I had sitting around in my quantum stockpile. Wish I could give you more information, but hopefully that gives you something to start with.
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Oxinabox

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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 08:12:55 pm »

...What EXACTLY did you do using DT?
I Don't remember exactly.
I enabled aout 4-6 -guys to do furnace operating. (some of whom had never done it before()
I had just built a stack of magma smelters,

but i didn't do that the first time, i got this bug


EDIT:
I unforbidded a bunch of stuff from quantum dumps (I had been dumping to clear an area  for my stockpiles)
and I also turned on ABSync and lowed the GFPS to 25
and turn priority from High back to normal (I forgot i had put it up)+
an now it appeat o be running smooth again

EDIT 2:
Nope looks like its back, i just got a migrant wave, lowered (well actually raised) the drawbridge to let them in and I also set up an alter and burrow restrictions to keep my civilains from leavinghte fortress and now it's freezing up again.)
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 08:24:17 pm by Oxinabox »
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 09:29:32 pm »

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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 04:10:49 pm »

This is happening to me as well, in vanilla 31.18

And my FPS is now crap. I used to have good fps, starting at 100 and declining steadily to around 20 until about 100 dorfs, but now its 30 fps with the starting 7.

I cant play it anymore, even adventure mode is freezing up on me.
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 04:25:34 pm »

Check your memory.
This kind of freeze sounds like memory swapping - meaning you are probably out of ram.
Try disabling other applications. If that doesn't work, then uh... no idea.
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 07:32:37 pm »

Check your memory.
This kind of freeze sounds like memory swapping - meaning you are probably out of ram.
Try disabling other applications. If that doesn't work, then uh... no idea.

That's the first thing I do when I start playing DF. Only the bare essentials run along with it, and I always put it on High priority.

I have no idea what else I can do...
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 08:23:58 pm »

Check your memory.
This kind of freeze sounds like memory swapping - meaning you are probably out of ram.
Try disabling other applications. If that doesn't work, then uh... no idea.

That's the first thing I do when I start playing DF. Only the bare essentials run along with it, and I always put it on High priority.

I have no idea what else I can do...

A few things that might help with low FPS (probably not choppiness that could be caused by interference, liquid leaks in the map or other issues on a "bugged" embark)

In the Init file you can try to change this.

G_FPS_CAP: (set at 50 by default, lowereing it a bit might help speed up the game)

In the d_init file you will see this entry.
[TEMPERATURE:YES]
[WEATHER:YES]
[ECONOMY:YES]
[INVADERS:YES]
[CAVEINS:YES]
[ARTIFACTS:YES]
[ZERO_RENT:NO]
[TESTING_ARENA:YES]
[WALKING_SPREADS_SPATTER_DWF:NO]
[WALKING_SPREADS_SPATTER_ADV:YES]

I havent tried playing around with those yet but Ive read that turning temperature and weather off can help with fps a lot though it might affect the game in other ways.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2010, 08:27:08 pm by Sir Crashalot »
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duckInferno

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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 10:01:46 pm »

Weather/temp/etc don't seem to help with this particular issue.
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2011, 09:51:06 am »

Huge bump.

I have a similar issue. It's not a FPS problem I think, but every now and then, the game freezes with "DF is not responding" before it starts up at a smooth fps again. /Repeat

Version: .31.25

Edit: It's more like a freeze < every minute with the dwarfs running. On a Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.2 Ghz.

Oh and I'm using the lazy newb pack and dwarf therapist.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 09:57:37 am by Syv »
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2011, 10:07:41 am »

I have the same issue. It started in 31.18 (maybe in .17, I didn't play it) and only thing that helped is smaller embark area. Now I can't play on anything bigger than 3x3 :(
So it probably is a FPS problem.
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2011, 01:57:25 pm »

Have task manager open (assuming Windows) while playing, and have the process list sorted by CPU usage.  When DF acts flaky, see what process is using the most CPU.  If it isn't another process eating CPU time, then either DF is doing something processor intensive, or its processes are being bottlenecked by a data transfer (usually to/from the hard drive as that is almost always the slowest connection in the computer).  Having to swap out other programs/processes can easily cause this, as Windows gives that transfer a high priority (to get it done faster).  So, limited ram and a slow hard drive combined are the most likely culprit (assuming it isn't moving magma causing constant temperature calculations which has been shown to cause lots of temporary lockup).
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 01:54:47 pm »

Comback bump.

Any official response on this? And / or is this issue better in the later release?
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Re: game freezing up every 5 seconds
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 02:14:02 pm »

Lucky bastard, my current fort advances 1 frame each 5 secs.
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