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Quintin Stone

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Food rots in the depot very quickly
« on: September 24, 2006, 07:58:00 pm »

Should food be rotting in the depot so quickly?  How is the humans keep the food fresh over such a long distance only to have it rot a few minutes after I buy it?  Is this a scam or a bug?  :)  I buy lots of food when the human merchants show up, but the problem seems that my dwarves can't move it out fast enough to keep it from spoiling.  I have a depot full of rotten meat and wither veggies.
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Mud

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 10:38:00 pm »

Are you sure you have somewhere to store that food? If you have neither any free barrels or food storage spaces, your dwarves will just leave the food to rot.
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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 05:33:00 am »

I had that problem too.  I finally made several dedicated food haulers to make sure the food hauling queue got emptied out and delayed buying from the caravan until they were almost ready to leave to buy myself some extra time.
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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2006, 06:47:00 am »

I've noticed that my prepared meals tend to sit out of barrels and rot,  but meat and other things go to barrels quickly.  Taking a closer look, I think the highest quality cooking choice produces stacks that are too large to fit in barrels.  I'm not sure yet, but I've switched to the mid-quality meal and I think there is less food left out of barrels.

I had the rotting problem with caravans, but it was food I was selling, not buying.  For more "realism" and our convenience, they could buy and sell barrels of food, which would help keep things fresh.

[ September 25, 2006: Message edited by: axus ]

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Maximus

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 02:10:00 pm »

Hmm, you may be right about that.  I had a stack of 25 Dwarven Wine Biscuits that I saw rotting in the trash heap while all my other food was neatly stashed away.

I'm an obsessive barrel-builder, so I don't notice this too often: will food on a stockpile but not in a barrel rot?

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 02:31:00 pm »

Prepared food doesn't rot in stockpiles, it rots in your kitchen because the seed hauling jobs take up all of the food hauling spaces if you're processing plants heavily without activating enough food haulers.
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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 04:33:00 pm »

Something else to keep in mind is if food is placed outside of a container, but within a stockpile, it won't get put into a container when one becomes available.

To fix this, you need to make the square with the individual food item not a stockpile so that it will be requeued.

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 01:16:00 am »

thought toadyone mentioned that food sitting on floor in food pile does rot (eventually)

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Something else to keep in mind is if food is placed outside of a container, but within a stockpile, it won't get put into a container when one becomes available.

not true.. well.. not true for uncooked stuff anyway...

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Maximus

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 01:32:00 am »

Yeah, a lot of my harvest gets placed on the floor in the stockpile (even though I have enough barrels) before eventually getting transferred to barrels.
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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2006, 05:53:00 am »

Hm, maybe it will eventually be moved. But I've had a bit of luck getting it done faster, at least, by undesignating the food stockpile the turnips are on.
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Quintin Stone

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2006, 08:36:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Maximus:
<STRONG>Yeah, a lot of my harvest gets placed on the floor in the stockpile (even though I have enough barrels) before eventually getting transferred to barrels.</STRONG>

Yeah, I'm overflowing with barrels and bins, but my dwarves don't seem to have a strong desire to use them.  Maybe this also needs to be increased.
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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2006, 09:45:00 am »

>Yeah, I'm overflowing with barrels and bins, but my dwarves don't seem to have a strong desire to use them.


Wow.

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Maximus

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2006, 11:54:00 am »

>Overflowing

That's doable.  Start on a heavily-forested map (the one with the alligator is pretty tame) and have two carpenters and one or two woodcutters produce constantly.

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Quintin Stone

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2006, 01:46:00 pm »

Yes, this is a heavily forested map.  The downside is that its brimming with psychopathic elephants.

One of my hunters actually managed to kill one single-handedly.  Of course, he was dead long before it bled out.

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Re: Food rots in the depot very quickly
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2006, 08:38:00 pm »

The real question is...

How bad is your overpopulation problem that you'd turn on hunting in an elephant-infested map just to get rid of your dwarves?

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