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[Capntastic]

Don't worry Garry this has been fixed in the new version.

[Endiqua]

But we like worrying Garry!

[Anti-Paragon]

quote:Originally posted by Capntastic:
<STRONG>Don't worry Garry this has been fixed in the new version.</STRONG>

Is Garry fixed in the new version?

[Grey Hunter]

quote:Originally posted by Anti-Paragon:
<STRONG>

Is Garry fixed in the new version?</STRONG>

if by "fixed" you mean "buried with the adamatinum demon" then I hope so.
Unfortunatly fixing people like that in real life requires one of three things

1) Time. if they are just trolling to annoy people, then they should grow out of that as soon as they start talking to people in real life - getting past the grunt stage of life

2) a Pyscologist (spelt wrong I know) - Hopefully the maladjusted personality can be returned to socity with the minimum of mental help. allowing them to go on to lead a fufilling life working for a fast food resteraunt.

3) a tire iron. - for the worst cases.

[pushy]

Garry, Troll cancels Play Dwarf Fortress: Could not find brain.
The dwarves didn't care.

 

quote:if by "fixed" you mean "buried with the adamatinum demon" then I hope so.

Where'd the fun be in that? Ironic punishment would be to drown the sod in a permaflood (which, unfortunately, would be 'fixed' in the next version  

 

quote:i m not gong to play a stupid game like tis you guys cant program at all

Could you do any better, Garry? I think it'd be hilarious to see an attempted DF-beater by someone who's all talk and has no clue what they're actually doing  

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: pushy ]

[JT]

Man, guys, don't feed the trolls.  All of this drama is just horrible.  Once one or two people get their licks in, get on with your lives. ;-)

[Jaqie Fox]

For some reason the OP reminds me of this line in back to the future:
Biff: "That's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship."
Marty: "That's a screen door on a submarine, you idiot."

[Solara]

quote:Originally posted by Grey Hunter:
<STRONG>

if by "fixed" you mean "buried with the adamatinum demon" then I hope so.
Unfortunatly fixing people like that in real life requires one of three things

1) Time. if they are just trolling to annoy people, then they should grow out of that as soon as they start talking to people in real life - getting past the grunt stage of life

2) a Pyscologist (spelt wrong I know) - Hopefully the maladjusted personality can be returned to socity with the minimum of mental help. allowing them to go on to lead a fufilling life working for a fast food resteraunt.

3) a tire iron. - for the worst cases.</STRONG>

Don't forget my favorite: 4) the definition of 'fixed' that requires a trip to the vet and some brief surgery.   That would hopefully keep our beloved pet troll from spraying on the forum and stinking the place up...

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: Solara ]

[herrbdog]

Well, he's already learned those bad habits, animals don't unlearn well. But at least he won't breed! (Stupid people breed faster ya know. =p)

[Ratbert_CP]

I think Garry is actually Toady.  Too many hours in front of source code and bug reports tends to make the world a little... surreal.  And he's just inviting us into his little Disneyland of DF, where Space Mountain is filled with magma, and It's a Small World floods its banks every day at half past 3 in the afternoon.

[BDR]

quote:Originally posted by pushy:
<STRONG>Could you do any better, Garry?</STRONG>

Oh dear, not this retort again.. it's sort of annoying to see it so often in as many places as I have.

For the record, the argument that you haven't got the right/capacity to credibly judge the quality of something if you couldn't do it better is pretty flawed; being able to do something and judging someone's ability to do something are very different skills.  Now, you *can* make the argument that being able to do something gives insights and understanding of the problems, pitfalls, and other sorts of things that make it complicated such that you have a better appreciation of how much (or little) needs to be overcome to get anywhere, but that *does not* mean that someone who doesn't know how to do something can't still manage to get enough relevant information together to form a credible opinion about how someone is handling something.  For example, I'm not sure I could really do much better comics for 7 days a week for the better part of a year every year for as long as it's been going, but that doesn't mean I can't credibly say Garfield isn't a good comic.

As for DF, I think the pertinent facts are:

1. It's an *alpha*, not a finished product.

2. This will be fixed in the next version, coming out soon.

3. For a game that claims to be an alpha, it's incredibly playable and interesting; how many games are honestly more than tech demos in their alpha stage?

4. For that matter, how many games actually let you interact with them in their alpha stages?

5. There's a massive amount of stuff planned for it which, once it's all properly implemented, could potentially turn it into the Spore (or even greater) of roguelikes.

In light of those facts, I'm willing to stick with it even through the -3.  Perhaps all Garry needs to do is stop playing Fortress mode.    

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: BDR ]

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: BDR ]

[infinity]

BDR throws a tantrum!!!  

quote:Originally posted by BDR:
<STRONG>

Oh dear, not this retort again.. it's sort of annoying to see it so often in as many places as I have.

For the record, the argument that you haven't got the right/capacity to credibly judge the quality of something if you couldn't do it better is pretty flawed; being able to do something and judging someone's ability to do something are very different skills.  Now, you *can* make the argument that being able to do something gives insights and understanding of the problems, pitfalls, and other sorts of things that make it complicated such that you have a better appreciation of how much (or little) needs to be overcome to get anywhere, but that *does not* mean that someone who doesn't know how to do something can't still manage to get enough relevant information together to form a credible opinion about how someone is handling something.  For example, I'm not sure I could really do much better comics for 7 days a week for the better part of a year every year for as long as it's been going, but that doesn't mean I can't credibly say Garfield isn't a good comic.

As for DF, I think the pertinent facts are:

1. It's an *alpha*, not a finished product.

2. This will be fixed in the next version, coming out soon.

3. For a game that claims to be an alpha, it's incredibly playable and interesting; how many games are honestly more than tech demos in their alpha stage?

4. For that matter, how many games actually let you interact with them in their alpha stages?

5. There's a massive amount of stuff planned for it which, once it's all properly implemented, could potentially turn it into the Spore (or even greater) of roguelikes.

In light of those facts, I'm willing to stick with it even through the -3.  Perhaps all Garry needs to do is stop playing Fortress mode.    

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: BDR ]

[ October 18, 2007: Message edited by: BDR ]</STRONG>

[pushy]

quote:Originally posted by BDR:
<STRONG>For the record, the argument that you haven't got the right/capacity to credibly judge the quality of something if you couldn't do it better is pretty flawed</STRONG>

I never said nor implied that he lacked the capacity to judge the quality of the game because he couldn't do it better himself. You're filling in the blanks with generic crap  :roll:
There's a certain level of respect and appreciation that one would be expected to have just as a result of being able to complete a massive project like this, even if it is only in an alpha stage. Asking if some idiot can do any better is a rhetorical question, the reply to which is almost invariably "No", to which you can then tell said idiot to show some bloody respect.

[JT]

quote:Originally posted by BDR:
<STRONG>5. There's a massive amount of stuff planned for it which, once it's all properly implemented, could potentially turn it into the Spore (or even greater) of roguelikes.</STRONG>

I call into question citing a game which presently exists only as vapourware as some sort of standard to live up to. ;-)

I also think Spore will actually suck ass; people will buy it because they think, omigod Spore has amphibians real-time strategy Will Wright I want his baby and then install it.  But that's just my skepticism.  The reason I'm calling it this is because I've seen games hyped all to hell turn out to be absolute garbage: Daikatana (which is a timeless joke), the various Battlecruiser games (which are fun but are wads of Derek Smart's "won't fix" garbage), etc.

[Solara]

BDR, pushy's post was an amused/sarcastic response to an obvious troll. As such, writing an entire admonishing, ultra-serious essay in reply was probably not the best use you've ever made of your time...

[ October 19, 2007: Message edited by: Solara ]