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veok

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How do I make teeth stronger?
« on: November 16, 2010, 11:23:08 pm »

What are my options in regards to making teeth a more viable combat option? Dragons, Hydras, etc. can bite through iron and bronze (sometimes) but is there anything I can do to make teeth in an individual species sharper and generally more deadly?

Alternatively, could a weapon be modded in that had to be "wielded" by the teeth?
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 11:29:34 pm »

Administer more milk.  In all seriousness, I believe you have to make a specialized type of tooth tissue that's significantly stronger than normal teeth, and apply it to the megabeast in question instead of normal teeth.
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 12:40:46 am »

Somewhere below the material detail plan tag:
[SELECT_MATERIAL:TOOTH]
And below that you put whatever material properties you want your teeth to have.
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 03:35:17 am »

Drink lots of milk
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veok

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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 09:38:08 am »

Somewhere below the material detail plan tag:
[SELECT_MATERIAL:TOOTH]
And below that you put whatever material properties you want your teeth to have.

Which attributes would I need to change? I'm looking to add in the "I bite off your arm-ness" that Hydras et al already possess to smaller creatures.
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 10:25:04 am »

Modifying MAX_EDGE is an easy way, it directelly affect edged attack power. For reference, skin has 100, tooth 1000, all metals 10000 and adamantine 100000.

Alternately you could modify this block of tags

Quote from: tooth raws
   [IMPACT_YIELD:200000] copied bone, no data
   [IMPACT_FRACTURE:200000]
   [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:200000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:200000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [TENSILE_YIELD:115000]
   [TENSILE_FRACTURE:130000]
   [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [TORSION_YIELD:115000]
   [TORSION_FRACTURE:130000]
   [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [SHEAR_YIELD:115000]
   [SHEAR_FRACTURE:130000]
   [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
   [BENDING_YIELD:115000]
   [BENDING_FRACTURE:130000]
   [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]

Not sure how these are used in the games calculations, but increasing yield and fractures strengthens the material. Strain at yield used to be called elasticity. Materials with a higher strain at yield bend/tear instead of creaking/breaking.

Another thing you can do is simply giving creatures larger teeth. Doing all the above makes for a realy vicious critter. Human sized yet dismembering collosi kind of vicious.
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veok

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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 11:11:49 am »

Aha. And which RAWs control teeth size? Thanks for your help so far, guys!
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veok

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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 05:11:12 pm »

Perhaps a new question -- can I make a weapon that uses "biting" skill to attack with? You'd still have to hold it in one hand, I suppose, but it'd be a pretty good approximation of what I'm going for.
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 08:40:12 pm »

Perhaps a new question -- can I make a weapon that uses "biting" skill to attack with? You'd still have to hold it in one hand, I suppose, but it'd be a pretty good approximation of what I'm going for.

Reminds me of Jaws from the James Bond movies.

Hmm... Steel teeth.
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Re: How do I make teeth stronger?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 11:55:09 pm »

Ba-dump! Still looking into this. Still investigating weapons which use "biting". No luck yet.
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