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[Soulwynd]

Just make sure you show that she's wanted sexually. If you avoid it to protect her, you might send the wrong message.

>.>

[Kaiser Reinhard]

A little late to respond, but thanks for the advice, everyone. Still haven't done anything, though.

We're both going to see our teacher tomorrow, though we were supposed to be with a larger group of mutual friends she didn't invite them along, saying that we make enough good conversation. Could that mean something?

[ragnarok97071]

I think she may know and is giving you an opportunity.
or Fate likes you.
Either way, YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY.

[Il Palazzo]

Just ask her out, god damnit.

[Kaiser Reinhard]

Just ask her out, god damnit.

We already do that. Problem is I need a good way to show my intent.

[nenjin]

Good god man, say something flirty. Tease her about something (except her looks or her clothes) nicely, sweetly. Go watch a movie and sit close somewhere dark. Use "that tone" males have when seducing a women, where their octave drops a few notches and they make eye contact.

We're biologically primed for this stuff, you just have to get the conditions right, the rest is pretty much human nature. She'll figure out what you're about pretty quickly.

[KaguroDraven]

You could always just be up front about it, if she's been your friend for years you shouldn't need to do the normal semi-sutble stuff. You should tell her, and either be happy if she feels the same, or accept it if she doesn't.

[Kaiser Reinhard]

You could always just be up front about it, if she's been your friend for years you shouldn't need to do the normal semi-sutble stuff. You should tell her, and either be happy if she feels the same, or accept it if she doesn't.

Yeah, that would be the best scenario. But I suppose it's best after some time doing the subtle stuff.

[nenjin]

I'll say this about the honesty part. It has its drawbacks. Some women want to feel seduced. They want to feel like it was spontaneous. Nothing has less elements of that than a frontal "I like you, you like me, you wanna do dis?" proposal. It's simply not fun for them, while it's really convenient for you as a guy. In truth, it doesn't take that much effort to be at least slightly seductive. It's just some guys aren't comfortable trying to act that way, and it comes across to some women as a lack of confidence that you have to be direct about it to get the courage up to show your interest/affection.

Who knows though. Every girl is different. I don't think I've met one yet though that is like "Yeah, seriously, just ask me rather than seduce me. It's easier." Even if they're really down to earth and say they don't need to be charmed, on some level they want at least a little bit of that. They don't need to be charmed...but they want you to be charming. They don't need to be seduced...but they want you to be seductive.

I had one girl go from clearly being interested to pure friend when I tried doing it the easy way. She went from flirting with me to the degree she was showing me the color of her underwear to no, literally like that. I've never seen a woman change her behavior that fast. I think it had to do with the fact I point blank asked her rather than letting it happen naturally. Women don't like being put in that situation, and the smart ones will always say "No" rather than being forced into giving an answer.

It's funny. Another girlfriend once re-wrote our relationship in her memory to fit the standard that *I* seduced *her*. She conveniently forgot she was the one that offered to come over to my house, with a movie and a bottle of orange juice in one hand, and a bottle of gin in the other. She's the one that forget *I* started going for the couch instead of my own bed when *she* told me I should be sleeping in my bed.....with her.

There's a reason the game has lasted this long, and that's because women like it this way

[Kaiser Reinhard]

Interesting. I don't know how this might work out in my situation, but a good read.

[Heron TSG]

where their octave drops a few notches

Excuse me if this is rude, but the music student part of my brain just aneurysm'd.

An octave is eight half-steps. Going up an octave doubles your pitch, and lowering an octave halves it. Yes, it was very clear that you meant that their voices deepen, but... OCD?

[Argembarger]

where their octave drops a few notches

Excuse me if this is rude, but the music student part of my brain just aneurysm'd.

An octave is eight half-steps. Going up an octave doubles your pitch, and lowering an octave halves it. Yes, it was very clear that you meant that their voices deepen, but... OCD?

No, he's absolutely right.

When I'm attracted to a woman I look right into her eyes and my voice deepens to the point that it is indistinguishable from the movement of the tectonic plates beneath our feet. I achieve resonance with the Earth itself and my very voice splits the ground in the shape of a heart, to express my feelings.


Ok I'm being silly now but I did notice the "octaves" thing as well, you are not alone.

[ragnarok97071]

If that actually happened it would be the greatest thing EVER. Does harmonizing with the earth give you other stuff you can do, or is it limited to heart-shaped fissures?

[eerr]

If you stay very close, and tell her you aren't truely wooing her because she has a boyfriend, and then she dumps that boyfriend, that is kind of a big sign.

If she doesn't dump said boyfriend, then take it the otherway, at least a little bit.

[nenjin]

What, when you guys say you felt the earth move, you're being metaphorical? Pffffttttt.