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[Caesar]

Do it. Do it NAOUGHW!

[inteuniso]

I've found that it's less awkward if you're just direct with it. Go ahead with it. Just say "Go out with me".

[Vector]

Might not want to phrase it as an order, but yeah.

[DJ]

"Go out with me if you want to live."

[GlyphGryph]

Gah, now that I've finally some idea how to confess... I don't think I'll have any time because of school.

But seriously, I should probably set up an outing with her before her school starts. I only have two weekends left till then.

Also, why you lie to us? You say you won't have time because of school, and then you say you have two whole weeks!

[Kaiser Reinhard]

I should probably have said will have very little time. In any case, I'm going to have to work like a motherfucker during the weekdays if I want to keep my weekends free. Those two weekends left were for before her school starts, we attend different schools and courses.

[GlyphGryph]

Then it looks like you have a time limit. Better get going.

[Graebeard]

OK.  You've been trying to do this for how long?  You say you like this girl, but the way you've avoided your opportunities and made excuses it really seems like you don't care enough to make it happen.

You said you've decided to do it and you're just trying to nail down the when/where/how.  That's useless.  Don't do it.  It hasn't worked yet and it won't no matter how much bad internet advice you get.

If you want her you have to do the same thing you'd have to do to get anything you really want: go get it.  The how doesn't matter, finding the perfect time/place doesn't matter.  The only thing that matters, the only thing you haven't done, is just going and doing it.

Go.  If you care, go.  If you don't care enough to take what you want, then then by all means, keep posting here for the sympathy.

[ragnarok97071]

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Why are you just repeating what EVERYONE ELSE is saying?

If that's all your going to do, DON'T FARKING POST.

Seriously, I agree with you somewhat, but if the only added thing is 'and you suck', it doesn't need to be said.

[Graebeard]

Why are you just repeating what EVERYONE ELSE is saying?

Really?  I see people telling him to do it over the phone, to not do it on a train, to do it in person, that the train is fine, to stalk her and show up with flowers, to make sure she understands it's a date, ways to communicate, things to keep in mind, blah de blah blah blah.

Caesar seems about the only person to really share my sentiment.

If that's all your going to do, DON'T FARKING POST.

Seriously, I agree with you somewhat, but if the only added thing is 'and you suck', it doesn't need to be said.

I don't see anyone else saying the only thing that matters is that he be proactive and take what he wants.  I see a lot of well intentioned advice by people who seem to think the how of something that's never going to happen matters.  It doesn't.  He's had more than a year to do something about this girl he says he likes and he's failed to take any action at all.

Maybe it's because he has a crippling fear of rejection.  Maybe it's because he's got completely unrealistic expectations.  Maybe it's because he thinks he'll never live up to her standards.  And maybe, and I haven't seen anyone else say this, it's because he doesn't want it enough to overcome whatever else is getting in the way.

Am I telling him "you suck?"  No.  I'm saying that he'd better figure out what his motivations are, and that there's no reason to keep fooling himself if he doesn't care enough to make it happen.

[Vector]

I dunno, I still think "take what you want" is a ridiculous motto.

But whatever, that's just me.


And sure, maybe he doesn't want it all that much, in the end.  Probably doesn't.  That's no reason to disparage him for changing his mind or not being ready.

[GlyphGryph]

Graebeard, you are repeating basically the same stuff everybody has said for the last 4 pages. I've said it would be better if he does it person. But since he's clearly had opportunities, getting to see her in person isn't the sticking point, and doing SOMETHING is the most important bit at this point. And doing it now. And that every single excuse he's come up is nothing but.

I've just been hoping I've wrong about him not actually wanting to. I want to believe what he's telling us.

Vector, I do agree with the general sentiment that "taking what you want" isn't the best way to do it, but I do feel very much that actually truly giving what you want an honest effort is of supreme importance, at least.


So, Kaiser, another weekend has gone by. Did you do it? Do you actually want it? Or what? If you changed your mind, and don't want it after all, that is ok. But don't lead us on, man.

[Vector]

Vector, I do agree with the general sentiment that "taking what you want" isn't the best way to do it, but I do feel very much that actually truly giving what you want an honest effort is of supreme importance, at least.

Sorry, I've gotten a bit touchy about the "taking women" thing recently.

I agree that it's really important to try for your goals.  The action of "taking" is kinda weird in this particular context, however.

[Heron TSG]

I don't think anyone was implying that he steal his friend and force a relationship. I think the metaphorical tense is implied here, in which Kaiser Reinhard actively forges ahead in his quest to woo his friend.

[Vector]

I know that very well.

Sorry, I'm just not having a very good week/month/year.