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[Habbadax]

Personally i'm going for both (altho the grind has grinded to a halt at tier 6... i have both tier 6 tanks maxed out but i just can't be arsed to play them.

From what i hear however the Tiger seems to be utter garbage.
Bad armor.
Slow.
Well you get it.

And the one and only saving grace of the tank is the top gun (every single one before it is trash at tier 7).

So yeah have fun.

If you can get it angled right, that armor is pretty nice, and it isn't that much slower than the other heavies of its tier, in some cases it's actually faster
And that gun is pure vicious, seven second reload with all that pen makes me a happy tanker

[serephe]

Tiger H is an amazing tank.

Sure pretty much anyone T7 or higher can penetrate you if you don't angle, but angled you're kind of bouncy, you've got 1500hp, and you've got a gun that can even take down T9s frontally as long as you aim.

[Dohon]

Thank you all for the comments and tips! I'm going to get me the H and see how that baby rolls.

[Wimopy]

Thank you all for the comments and tips! I'm going to get me the H and see how that baby rolls.

Bit late to comment now, but I can say that the H and P can both be awesome. One of my clan mates is a terror when driving his Tiger H, another is better with Tiger P, they're just different.

My advice would be to simply try whatever you can and see what suits you.
To put it simply, there are no good or bad players, there are people who are good with that tank and those who aren't. The "expert" players mostly have a more adaptive playstyle or only play with tanks that match their style.

[Rex_Nex]

Tiger H is flat out overpowered after the buffs. That gun and tier 8 HP is just too much. Luckily the fact it's an unarmored, camoless box does help keep it in check.

Tiger P I did great in, but the gun on it is really kind of terrible. 2.9 aimtime is horrible on such a low DPM, low alpha gun. You will do lots of exposing, luckily you have the armor for it.

[Rilder]

The whole Porsche line I think needs a bit of re-working to get it in line with the Henschel line I think, Afaik the Maus has been a huge victim of powercreep and just isn't the beast it was.

Also kinda having a bit of downward pressure on the number of tanks I have, think I need to buy a couple more tanks. Dunno what I want though, right now.

[Rex_Nex]

The Tiger P is alright. It's a fairly balanced T7, last I checked it had decent server winrate. The VK A needs a bit of retooling (To be specific, gun depression) and the VK B needs to be given an actual role besides "shitty E75". They could do a lot of stuff; better ground resistance would give it a mobile fascist box feel. Side armor buff would make it noticeably better than the E75 at sidescraping. You could greatly buff the 128 to give it more of a support feel. You could buff the lower glacis to give it more of a homogenous armor scheme and create one hell of a T8/T7 bully. Anything. It just needs a role.

I wrote a little snippet over on WoTLabs about what tanks I think are worthwhile to have in your garage for the sake of fun. Might help give you some ideas. *shrug*

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

My grand list of everything worthwhile in this game:
 
T1: Leichttraktor (Vision games)
T2: BT-2 (Best P:W in-game), T18 (High RoF 1-shotting cannon)
T3: T82 (Largest cannon for tier), Pz. 1 C (Mauser), UE 57 (By far the best camo/view combo of any low tier)
T4: T40 (Great cannon/sight/mobility package), UK Matilda (Best T4 when it gets there), Hetzer (Best 105mm chassis, armor, camo), T-28 (Incredible for mobility/firepower lovers)
T5: T1 Heavy (Ramming + Frontal Armor + Good Firepower = Fun), KV-1 (OP az fuk, multiple viable guns to keep you occupied, armor), T49 (Best Mobility/Camo/Firepower package), AT-2 (Best armor in-game, arcing derps over hills), ELC AMX (Great gun on an incredibly fast, invisible tank), S35 CA (2nd best per-tier alpha)
T6: Hellcat (T49 w/90), FV304 (Fastest SPG + Great Camo/Size/Arc = Fun TD), KV-1S (Best mid-tier gun/mobility package), A-43 (Best DPM/mobility package)
T7: T29 (Best turret armor, good gun+survivability package), T71 (Best Scout/Firepower package), AT-7 (Great gun+armor package), SU-152 (Great camo+alpha package), T-34-1 (Firepower + Camo + Armor on a med)
T8: JP2 (Mobility + Firepower without major sacrifice), Rhm.-B. WT (Turreted + Firepower + Camo = yay), AMX 50 100 (1800 spike in a tier with 1200-1500 HP tanks?), Obj 416 (Imagine the ELC made into a T8 med), ISU-152 (Incredible and reliable firepower w/camo), IS-3 (Speed/Alpha heavy w/great tourn/tb/tc viability) WZ-132 (Best scouting LT in-game)
T9: T54E1 (Incredibly fast spike on a chassis that can easily use it), T95 (AT-2 esque armor without the firepower issue, 10k+ potential games allday), Tortoise (Best DPM in game, can actually use DPM), E-75 (Best heavy armor abuse, mobility to use it), Foch (Best TD armor abuse, mobility to use it), T-54 (Best all-rounder), WZ-111 1-4 (Mobility+Firepower heavy without major sacrifice)
 
T10: All except IS7, IS4, M48, FV4202, and T-62A.

[lastverb]

You think that Tiger H gun is op? I got news for you: Opshorn has the same gun (name changed to allow WG to grab more gold on free exp when it came out) with better accuracy, faster aiming, and better RoF. Oh, and it's tier 6. You will say that it doesn't have hp? It doesn't need it, it's faster and has incredible camo for such high profile vehicle. Sturer Emil is completly meh though.

[Rex_Nex]

Meh I played the Nashorn; it's made of glass with no way to limit exposure. The poor speed, gun depression, armor, hp, and camo means that you really cant do anything other than camp a bush all game and farm damage. Sure you're OP when you're allowed to do that, but not every map in this game is Redshire. Have fun trying to carry on Himmelsdorf, Ensk, Ruinburg, Port, Westfield, Abbey, Fjords, Mines, Widepark...

Sturer Emil is one of the worst tanks in the game. Take all the bad parts of the Nashorn, make them 10x worse, and give it a shitty 128 with 15 rounds and no premium ammo. Fun stuff!

[Nighthawk]

I just started playing this game, and I am so confounded by everything you guys are talking about.

All I know is I get blown up a lot. I've played 20-some matches and gotten three kills in total. :/

[Jopax]

Why the hate for the M48 and the 62A Nex?

They're bot damn good tanks. Heck, you're recommending the Obj. 140 but not the almost identical 62A ? Most people think the 62A is better too, since it doesn't trade the invincible turret for a slightly higher top speed.

M48 on the other hand is a very versatile machine, good at being a spotter as well as a damage dealer thanks to the pretty solid RoF and alpha. Sure it's somewhat large and the top speed isn't the greatest but if you can adapt to it, it's a strong vehicle.

[Rex_Nex]

Why the hate for the M48 and the 62A Nex?

They're bot damn good tanks. Heck, you're recommending the Obj. 140 but not the almost identical 62A ? Most people think the 62A is better too, since it doesn't trade the invincible turret for a slightly higher top speed.

M48 on the other hand is a very versatile machine, good at being a spotter as well as a damage dealer thanks to the pretty solid RoF and alpha. Sure it's somewhat large and the top speed isn't the greatest but if you can adapt to it, it's a strong vehicle.

The 62A is fine. The problem is the 140 is better at almost everything, so getting both is somewhat wasteful. I'm not sure what people you're hanging around with, but most of the best players in the game consider the 140 to be superior. The turret armor is almost identical if you're playing it correctly, it's smaller, it's faster, it has better gun depression, and better armor. They are exactly the same otherwise, the 62A just being every so slightly more agile.

The M48 is pretty iffy at everything... it can spot, but not any better than its peers; the extra 20m view range is largely negated by having the camo and stature of a heavy. The fact it's the size of a heavy also means it is the least protected T10 med; its hard to miss and has pretty bad armor  When you buy the M48 you buy it for one thing; a standard t10 med gun with american gun dep. That's all it really offers, everything else is fairly mediocre. (Also the M60 is just a M48 but better, but that's not really fair since most people don't have one...)

[Sonlirain]

I'd like to point out that the chinese T10 med is a frankenstiein monster made out of russian tanks.

Hull armor of the T-54 (140)
Turret armor of a T-62A (240)
Gun out of one of the russian T10 heavies.

It has all the best ruskie bits in it.
Hell even the main gun reloads faster on it than the original russian one.

[Jopax]

The issue (it's biggest and only issue tbh) with 140, which in my eyes makes it worse than the 62A is the turret. Not only are the hatches bigger and easier to hit, the roof of the turret above the gun (a rather large area) is about 30mm's thick, making it almost non-existant because every gun from T9 and up overmatches it, making any and all attempts at hulldown pointless.

And the M48 is big, but it's not meant for passive scouting, the 420m viewrange, coupled with coated optics maxes out the spotting range, meaning that you just have to skirt a ridge or a hill or a corner to spot everything at max range. It's best for peekaboo spotting and using the gun depression for your advantage.

The 121 is a scary tank, but it trades off so much for that monster of a gun that it's somewhat limited in what it can do. It has nearly zero gun depression and it isn't exactly nimble, still, if you can work trough those issues it's one of the scariest tanks in the game.

[Rilder]

Spoiler: Die Maus die! (click to show/hide)

Actually got top damage in that match.

Also next patch is looking good, shooting through walls and such is gonna be useful, hopefully the havoc thing coming after works alright, though.