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[Dunamisdeos]

Fallout 4

Spoiler: contains thpoilers (click to show/hide)

I'm always conflicted about the Brotherhood's policy on non-humans. Is it xenophobic? By definition, yes, very clearly. Do they live in a world where non-humans consist of almost 100% hostile entities? Also yes. Mutated wildlife will kill you on sight. Ghouls will probably kill you on sight, and the ones that won't kill you can't be instantly identified by sight and have a greater-than-50%-chance of going suddenly insane and killing you at some point in your friendship if the ratio of ferals/non-ferals is any indication. Super mutants are actively hunting humans to kill you or drag you back to their lair for mutation, save for ridiculously rare outliers. Synths will either kill you outright, or use super science to kill you in a personal sense and then replace you in order to gather intel and kill everyone you know. You can't even trust regular humans, a good chunk of those are bandits.

I can't really blame them, it's not really a "hate people for being born elsewhere" sort of thing. It's like if you brought a rabid wolverine into an office and said "This is Strong, I need you to take my word that he's the only rabid wolverine you will ever meet in your life that won't try to bite you, ok i'm letting him off his leash now try to be friends".

[AzyWng]

Spoiler: SPIOLING INTENSIFIEXS (click to show/hide)

Wait, is there anything in the games that suggests that ghouls can turn feral? I've only played New Vegas and I don't pay too much attention to the story besides, so I don't know if there's anything in any of the games that says ghouls can eventually turn feral. It isn't exactly a problem that pops up in gameplay - Raul was never a danger to me or anything like that.

[Akura]

Looking it up, apparently the constant radiation ghouls live with does damage their brains until a certain point they can no longer reason, becoming feral. It's not necessarily a guaranteed thing, as there are several centuries-old ghouls with full mental faculties.

[Dunamisdeos]

Spoiler: SPIOLING INTENSIFIEXS (click to show/hide)

Wait, is there anything in the games that suggests that ghouls can turn feral? I've only played New Vegas and I don't pay too much attention to the story besides, so I don't know if there's anything in any of the games that says ghouls can eventually turn feral. It isn't exactly a problem that pops up in gameplay - Raul was never a danger to me or anything like that.

Spoiler: SPOILER MEGALOAD (click to show/hide)

Nah, all the ones you actually meet in the game are fine, because they are story-friendly and they want them to stay that way. Basically what Akura said.

But yeah, lore-wise ghouls reach a tipping point and go nutso, that's where all the feral ghouls in-game come from. Some never do, but judging from the ratio of feral hordes/friendly zombiefolk, it's more likely than not.

[Rolan7]

Spoiler: THIS VAULT HAS SPOILED (click to show/hide)

There was that crazy mobster who locked himself in a personal "vault", didn't he turn into a ghoul then later go feral?
Not that I particularly care about FO4's contributions to canon, but that's the only case I can think of of a ghoul *turning* feral in the series.  If I'm even remembering it right.

Spoiler: MOSTLY UNRELATED ENDGAME SPOILERZ (click to show/hide)

I ended up allying with the Brotherhood with Nick.  Yeah they give him a lot of stinkeye, and Nick really didn't like us retiring a certain Cylon, but they do tolerate Nick.  I think that does count for something.

Especially spoiled in that rereading the previous posts and spending some time on the wiki made me question my conclusions.  But hey, I don't care about FO4 canon.
Except for my husbandos...
A few months allying with the Mutant alliance, I spotted a mutant pogrom "hyperwave" travelling at nigh-FTL speed.  Thanks, hyperwave...

Thing is, it was the Mercenaries.  Think Mutons, down to the reinforced synth-flesh armor, just more equal opportunity.  Tough as rubberized nails, and in large number, and armed with those damn Gauss weapons from TFTD.  Except in this game the gauss accelerators are as lethal as they it should be, and also... fundamentally DNA-encrypted.

Sent my best gal up the gravshaft with a heavy machine gun, along with a rookie.  They both kneeled down and fired a hasty hail of high-caliber munitions into the nearest merc.

He soaked the hits, turned around, launched hypersonic gauss rounds in response.
RIP Jumpin Amelia and Sizzlin Harbringer.

Spoiler: The game I was playing, which was X-Piratez (click to show/hide)

X-Piratez

[Iduno]

Spoiler: SPIOLING INTENSIFIEXS (click to show/hide)

Wait, is there anything in the games that suggests that ghouls can turn feral? I've only played New Vegas and I don't pay too much attention to the story besides, so I don't know if there's anything in any of the games that says ghouls can eventually turn feral. It isn't exactly a problem that pops up in gameplay - Raul was never a danger to me or anything like that.

Spoiler: SPOILER MEGALOAD (click to show/hide)

Nah, all the ones you actually meet in the game are fine, because they are story-friendly and they want them to stay that way. Basically what Akura said.

But yeah, lore-wise ghouls reach a tipping point and go nutso, that's where all the feral ghouls in-game come from. Some never do, but judging from the ratio of feral hordes/friendly zombiefolk, it's more likely than not.

It sounds like it depends on which canon you're referring to. Fallout 2 was a bit different than Fallout, and Fallout 3/NV were very different games from both of those.

[Telgin]

Thrown into the lava repeatedly while trying to kill a flaming giant rock monster.  I thought killing it was for a quest, only to realize after it had killed me multiple times and that I'd eaten enough food for ten men that I was killing the wrong giant rock monster.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

[amjh]

Didn't earlier Fallout games state that ghouls turned feral if they don't get enough radiation in the long term, because they have become dependent on it? The space ghouls in NV thought the ferals could even be restored with enough radiation.

[Iduno]

Heat Signature. I aimed the ship I was on at a base to liberate it, and had less time to escape than expected. I made it almost to my pod, and got knocked out right by a turret that I didn't have time to wait for (and didn't realize I could just turn off).

At least I died a hero, probably. The game did freeze when I died while unconscious.

[Telgin]

Didn't earlier Fallout games state that ghouls turned feral if they don't get enough radiation in the long term, because they have become dependent on it? The space ghouls in NV thought the ferals could even be restored with enough radiation.

Considering that radiation heals ghouls, that would make sense.  I don't recall if Fallout 1 or 2 ever touched on the subject though, and I actually don't think they really had any feral ghouls.  Fallout 3 might have said something about it, but it's been so long since I've played it I don't remember.

[hector13]

The necropolis was full of ghouls in Fallout, if I remember correctly. I’m reasonably sure someone got upset if you killed them, too.

[pisskop]

Necropolis was literally 75% ghoul.  Their brains literally rotted iirc, from slow radiation seepage into their vault.  Im guessing that slow amounts of it are detrimental to your mental health, since i dont recall any sentient glowing ones.  Well, maybe one.

And in Fallout 3 you can blow up megaton and the merchant becomes a ghoul.  How much more immediate can that transformation occur than over the span of maybe 12 hours and a few thousand rads?

The necropolis was full of ghouls in Fallout, if I remember correctly. I’m reasonably sure someone got upset if you killed them, too.

Only the sentient ones and the chained glowing ones, ironically.  One of the few things he didnt try to eat you over.

[Kagus]

The glowing ones in the reactor in FO2 were all sentient, to my recollection. I seem to recall something about some rare feral ghouls, but the overwhelming majority were upstanding citizens. More or less.

And then there's whatever the fuck Harold is.

[Telgin]

Necropolis was the part I couldn't really remember the details for.  Plenty of ghouls there, but I seem to recall none were immediately hostile.  Maybe those outside became hostile if you stood around too long or something?  That sounds familiar, but I've played FO2 much more than FO1, which is really fuzzy in my memory.

And I don't remember any hostile ones in FO2 at all.

[pisskop]

its a stealth check, and they're absolutely blind and deaf.  they're much more like zombies