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[nbonaparte]

Yeah, although I'd make that 2 axis. obscure/visible and mainstream/niche. Minecraft is high visible and a little into the niche side. DF is somewhat into obscure and off the edge of niche.

[jrmy]

I'm not really sure if minecraft/df are comparable at all. The only parallel I can think of between the two is that they both have some kind of fortress construction mechanic - after that, comparisons between the two get a little wonky.

I'd say DF is closer to being the bitter, traumatised child of the Sims & Dungeon Keeper.

[cog disso]

It's true though. DF was actually starting to get some more mainstream attention before Minecraft took off and stole its thunder.

What exactly happened to make Minecraft so popular? Before I saw people talk about it around as much as Dwarf Fortress, then suddenly it was FUCK YEAH MINECRAFT!!!!!

Graphics. The majority of gaming journalists can't wrap their heads around a deliberate regressive aesthetic choice.

It's alright, I wouldn't like DF as much if everybody played it. I like it small and eccentric.

[BradB]

Magma. ASCII. Beards.

I can do better than them with just three words!

[Itnetlolor]

Just noticed this article is featured in an article of GeeksAreSexy.net.

Link

[HallowedError]

I noticed that youtube has an arse-load of MC let's plays. Seriously, it's kind of ridiculous. I know open ended games have a lot of choice and variability so video makers aren't all doing the same thing, but you can only watch someone build a castle a few times before it's like "Now what?".

So yeah, I think youtube has also helped it along a bit.

[metime00]

It's true though. DF was actually starting to get some more mainstream attention before Minecraft took off and stole its thunder.

What exactly happened to make Minecraft so popular? Before I saw people talk about it around as much as Dwarf Fortress, then suddenly it was FUCK YEAH MINECRAFT!!!!!

Graphics. The majority of gaming journalists can't wrap their heads around a deliberate regressive aesthetic choice.

It's alright, I wouldn't like DF as much if everybody played it. I like it small and eccentric.

And graphics would fall under the accessibility thing. That's what Minecraft has.

[Internet Kraken]

I noticed that youtube has an arse-load of MC let's plays. Seriously, it's kind of ridiculous. I know open ended games have a lot of choice and variability so video makers aren't all doing the same thing, but you can only watch someone build a castle a few times before it's like "Now what?".

So yeah, I think youtube has also helped it along a bit.

Well there are an arse-load of DF let's plays to. Hell, I just started one. Though typically they're not in video format so they probably don't get as much attention.

[metime00]

Plus not alot of people get sucked into Dwarf Fortress from watching it as it doesn't exactly catch your eye with it's visuals

[carebear]

I noticed that youtube has an arse-load of MC let's plays. Seriously, it's kind of ridiculous. I know open ended games have a lot of choice and variability so video makers aren't all doing the same thing, but you can only watch someone build a castle a few times before it's like "Now what?".

So yeah, I think youtube has also helped it along a bit.

Well there are an arse-load of DF let's plays to. Hell, I just started one. Though typically they're not in video format so they probably don't get as much attention.

Yeah. For people who have not played Minecraft watching a youtube video is an interesting way of seeing what the game is like. Watching a DF video without knowing anything about the game at all will just leave most people confused.

It's more difficult to see what's going on in DF. You really have to look closely and understand what things mean, whereas with Minecraft what you see is what you get pretty much.

[ScriptWolf]

DF does not fit into 3 lines of description very well.

Best
Game
Ever made

well he managed to do it

[Dakk]

Indeed, DF's LPs aren't the kind you post on youtube, unless you use stonesense. It takes at least a few hours of effort to get DF's basics down, while minecraft is so simple you can just jump in and start playing in the first minute, and for advertisement purposes, its those first minutes that count, not the actual content.

So, to put it simply:

1-Minecraft can produce fun at the very second you start play, but that fun doesn't last long, unless you have an unhealthy attraction to legos.

2-DF takes hours of gameplay for you to get its basics and start having real fun, but that fun will last for ages to come.

[Internet Kraken]

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I really don't have anything to add to what you said, but I feel the need to state that your avatar is several different kinds of awesome.

Minecraft really needs some more content in it before it could interest me. I love adventure games in a sandbox world, but you need some sense of what to do. Minecraft just felt like I was messing around with blocks. The fact that adding one new enemy is somehow a big deal doesn't reflect well on the game's content.

It certainly has the potential to be good. I just don't think it is there yet.

[KillerClowns]

While it's not my cup of tea, I respect Minecraft.  Of course it has a lack of features: it's young, having existed for a year and a half, compared to DF's eight years.  So, like Internet Kraken said, it's all potential right now.  But it's got a lot of that potential; it'll never be Dwarf Fortress due to the inherent limitations of its choice of a first-person, graphical 3D interface, but Notch seems to have a master plan, and I'm hoping he succeeds in it.

[Dakk]

Well, I don't people will ever be able to make posts like this about minecraft:

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And when they do, people will be posting about how they bred an army of human-troll hybrids and are opening a portal to heaven so they can eat god's face, on DF.