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Hard Science Planets!
« on: November 12, 2010, 12:54:32 am »

Invent a planet! No floating rocks! No blue humans! No one-biome worlds! Just planets that seem truthy.

CHASM:

   The moon of a moderate gas giant orbiting it's star some distance outside of the normal habitability zone, Chasm is nonetheless much like earth, sharing a rich variety of life. Due to the distant star, the planet receives only a small amount of solar radiation, and its limited day is often eclipsed by the parent planet. The moon orbits the gas giant at a significant distance, and the planet has it's own strong magnetosphere, freeing it from the worst of the radiation hazards of giants, though the aurora are intense in comparison to earth's.

   Chasm is 0.98 earth masses, but due to tidal forces, its significantly oblate shape causes surface gravity to vary more than earth's does. This tidal activity gives the planet a great deal of internal heat, though it is not as active as Io.
   
   Chasm's surface is defined by a great many small tectonic plates containing the highlands and separated by deep trenches. These volcanically heated trenches are the primary energy source for life on Chasm's surface.
   
   The centers of these plates are coated in thick ices, including frozen water, carbon dioxide, and methane. These areas have very little atmosphere and precipitation, as by the time atmospheric currents reach these places, most volatiles have precipitated out. Glacier-like formations lead outward from these places, carrying these elements and gradually eroding the highlands. The formation of new plates occurs as old ones are subsumed in trenches from erosion and plate movement. As the old trenches widen, eventually new plates develop in the gaps. The constant plate movement causes these small plates to merge often, and very large mountain ranges can be formed.
   
   There is almost no complex life in the central continental regions, although extremeophile colonies do exist that live off the small amount of sunlight.
   
   As the glaciers move downhill, they are gradually warmed by inward-moving air currents that in turn cool and precipitate more and more material. This speeds the glaciers as they gain more mass. This is a complex region that is little understood; it is effectively the transition between a region similar to the martian or even lunar poles, and places merely antarctic in temperature. Soon carbon dioxide and methane ice has entirely sublimated from the glaciers, to be replaced with water ice. By this point, a number of still very simple but earthlike microscopic plants exist. These alge get many nutrients from the tailings of the glaciers, which carry some quantity of icy dust and ash that had been carried to the central regions and then deposited, which sometimes carries organic material.
   
   The glaciers begin to become rivers as they leave the antarctic regions. Where earth sees tundra and other subarctic climes at these temperatures, the limited sunlight makes that impossible here. However, some animal life does travel this far; By this point, ash and many volatile chemicals released by the volcanic chasms regularly precipitate, and provide the nutrients and chemical energy for a small biosphere here, mainly built on scavengers and chemosynthetic life.
   
   This life is restricted to the river canyons, however. This is still within the body of the continent, and the mountaintops remain effectively "superarctic". The valleys do concentrate the ashfall, making them extensions of warmth and nutrients into the cold.
   
   This region of semi-tundra is a wide and varied band from deep within the continents to close to the edges. As the trenches are approached, the temperature rapidly increases. There are several narrow bands in succession that contain amoungst them most of the life on Chasm.
   
   Continuing outward, the coldest of these regions is something seemingly similar to a rainforest. At this point, a great deal of water is usually precipitating as very warm and humid air moves away from the chasm and very rapidly starts to cool. This rain is often quite warm by earthly standards, and the air temperature is comfortable to humans, though the chemistry is certainly not. The precipitation is very rich in dissolved chemicals, and the thick plantlike life of the region derives much energy from these compounds. Animals that feed off of this life are also common in this area.
   
   As the clouds are thick with water and ash, this is the darkest region of the planet in terms of normal light. However, bioluminescence is very common here, particularly amoungst "toxic" plants and animals. interestingly, the toxins many of these creatures produce are actually inert to earth life, and can be easily treated to create digestible sugars. Of course, the delivery method of these toxins usually also delivers small quantities of cyanide, fluorine compounds, and heavy metals used in normal respiration of the life here.
   
   All earth life and all Chasm life is mutually toxic without intense purification. A single dead human in a breached suit can poison several square miles of terrain for weeks until the sugars have broken down. Of course, any human in a breached suit would be a dead one. This is why surface suits for teams use artificial bioluminescence that resembles that used by toxic animals, and this has proven to be very effective at preventing animal attacks.
   
   As the rivers flow closer to the trenches, the temperature climbs higher. At first, the plant life grows increasingly dense, but after a point, it starts to grow stunted as the temperature passes the point at which water can no longer condense- in other words, places where rainfall drops off. There are regions where weather patterns cause the temperature to fluctuate over the border, and these are dominated by increasingly lower plant and animal populations. This boarder region is most comparable to savanna conditions, though without seasonal cycles, there are significant differences. By this point, the rivers are extremely large, with many that are comparable in size to the Amazon on earth. The lakes that form from these rivers are also of great size, and feature perhaps the most earthlike life- fish and plants similar to deep-sea life.
   
   These lakes, like earth's seas, are the sinks for a great deal of minerals and elements; in fact, the constant vulcanism and rapid evaporation in these lakes leads to thick crystallization on the lake bottoms and shores. The water is so dense that even with a full load of equipment, boats are almost unnecessary for humans. Water evaporating from here and from the rest of the region as it seeps in underground is immediately carried back uphill over the rainforests, leading to a relatively short water cycle, with the vast majority of it cycling between these points.
   
   Collecting the slurry and/or crystal deposits could be a lucrative form of mining, since many dissolved minerals in the water are volatiles that are difficult to extract elsewhere on large scales. However, the slurry is a rich microbial habitat, and seems to be key in regulating Chasm's atmosphere by doing the local equivalent of fixing nitrogen. Crystal extraction could prove to be safe.
   
   After this savanna and lake region, a very narrow border climate exists before the volcanic trenches open. This area has very little life, but receives more, and more constant, light than anywhere else. Reflected off the clouds, the brightly glowing lava provides enough light for very small scale photosynthesis. Where there are nutrients and water, such as by the already boiling rivers, some photosynthetic life exists, coating the rocks in algae similar to that found in earthly hot springs. This area is little explored due to it's hostility, but given the wealth of organic materials in the runoff from upstream, it's quite possible that more complex life exists here in unexplored places. Scattered reports of armored crab-creatures with heat-sink-like growths in their carapaces lend credence to this direction of research.
   
   This region can be extremely narrow; in some cases, sheltered savanna valleys have rivers that pour directly through narrow openings into magma. In other areas, this desert region extends for some distance. Mountaintops in this region are still essentially superarctic, though they sometimes have high valleys that collect some nutrients and warmth, acting as extremely inaccessible islands of life.
   
   After this region, the only remaining biome is the coast and magmatic sea. No life is known to exist here, aside from the potential for panextremeophiles. Despite this, these chasms are essential for life on this planet, as the planet's internal chemical forges are hard at work, and the complex compounds that vaporize from the region bring essential chemical energy to the cooler regions.
   
   These canyons are larger than any exposed lava on earth. Where what remains of rivers pour into the lava, we see plumes of ash and smoke that rise up and start moving uphill. Generally, most of these rivers have already entirely evaporated before they even reach the lava, as the rock in the region is itself nearly molten. There may be some continent-building as the water cools the lava enough to solidify into new land- however, these areas are highly geologically active, shifting throughout the day as the pull of the parent giant distorts the planet. The lava is, in fact, tidal much like earth's seas are. This movement tends to destroy small-scale building.
   
   There are a few small islands in these lava seas that are large enough to dissipate the heat of the surrounding molten rock- though it is important to note here that unlike ice, the rock that makes up continents is denser than surface lava- it is only the presence of heavy metals and great pressure that makes internal magma denser than cool stone. As such, there are absolutely no "rock icebergs"- a chunk that breaks off a continent near the coast would simply sink until it is deep enough to be buoyant, then gradually melt. Instead, these small islands are connected under the lava surface to the mainlands. They are to be considered unstable unless carefully examined by ultrasound, but can be useful positions for stations.
   
   Finally, note that this is an extremely limited summary of the climates of Chasm, similar in detail to a report describing earth's biomes as being determined entirely by altitude and latitude. Each small continent features a unique ecosystem along the general lines described here. Each tectonic plate is largely isolated by nearly insurmountable magma canyons; life spreads from one to another only by flight, or the chance drifting of a spore or seed, or else only when continents collide.
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Re: Hard Science Planets!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 01:12:51 am »

^This topic seems like a little bit of an excuse for you to share your writing with us. ;D

I probably couldn't sit down and write about an imaginary planet for an hour, especially not at this time. However, I am eagerly awaiting someone to make a biological description of Dwarf Fortress worlds.  :o
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 01:23:26 am »

Wierd planetary geology aside (which sounds plausible, but..... i dunno, it just doesn't seem quite right to me. I'm sure there will be surprises to find when we manage to achieve interstellar travel/FTL travel), nice with the life not as we know it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 01:27:34 am »

^This topic seems like a little bit of an excuse for you to share your writing with us. ;D

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Mainly I added bits at a time for a couple days. It adds up.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 01:34:56 am »

Aurora at first appears to be another dead rocky planet, though this is strange, considering is is right in the middle of the life zone, and is roughly the size of Venus. On closer inspection, the pock-marked surface appears to be Limestone, and in a quantity so vast that life must have at one point existed on it. The calcium carbonate appears to form a "shell" around the planet, and our probes have ventured roughly three kilometers into the surface before encountering any other rock in significant amount. Clouds roll just above the surface, none bearing rain.

We hypothesize that the shell was made by a vast colony of coral-like organisms, save they existed on dry land. The limestone itself bears a hexagonal lattice structure when viewed under the microscope, causing it to be slightly lighter than earth coral, though even more stable. There are countless holes in the surface, our aforementioned probes did not even need mining equipment, being able to simply navigate the caverns. These caverns were formed by precipitation, as when the now extinct coral reached the upper limits of the habitable atmosphere, the rain eventually pooled, eroding the lattice structure easily.

The caves go deep, we haven't yet reached the bottom, as most of the calcium used to form the shell was harvested by the coral, and transported to the top using large 'veins' that are little more than vertical shafts, plunging downward for miles. The surface is the skeleton of the largest colony of organisms ever recorded, at one point the planet itself was alive. Due to the hypothesized presence of water deep underground, we are searching for whatever organisms may have evolved.
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SECOND REPORT

A patina of gray moss has been found in the caves, the nearly untraceable amount of sunlight that penetrates the limestone appears to be enough to support some plant life, but it's metabolism must be extremely slow. The caves become noticeably hotter just a few hundred feet down, so it is theorized that the flora metabolizes from thermal energy. The heat is caused by still living colonies of the coral at the absolute bottom of the caves, where they thrive off of shallow pools of steaming water. Small insect-like creatures are seen congregating on the edges of the pools, eating the coral without contacting the fatally toxic water.

Pale white toad-like creatures on stilt legs wade through the pools, their feet covered in a blackened shell. They glow with an eerie light, and move little, coated in a sticky acid that dissolves the insects and absorbs the nutrients through their semi-permeable skin. All life forms here move extremely slowly, and the insects do not fly often. The deeper into the cavern, the faster they seem to move.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 05:26:02 am »

^This topic seems like a little bit of an excuse for you to share your writing with us. ;D

That is a bald-faced truth.
Mainly I added bits at a time for a couple days. It adds up.

That in mind, shouldn't this be in the Creative Projects area?  That's pretty much exactly what it's for.

I had an idea to do something like this before, but I figured interest would be really limited.  I pictured it as more of an interactive thing though.  I've got a couple semi-hard science planet ideas I made for a sci-fi tabletop game a while ago which I could try putting into narrative.  It'd be good writing practice I guess.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 10:30:46 am »

these are actually cool.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 08:10:40 pm »

Here's a little bit of stuff for one of the worlds in my stories.  For added fun, it's in-character.  I may add more later, especially if anyone finds it interesting enough to want to know more.

Khethis (Many-Paths) was (yes, was) a planet of about 90% Earth's mass.  It's difficult to draw a fully accurate picture of what it was like, considering the condition it was in when humanity first encountered it; usually, one has to begin by declaring it 'Earthlike' and then defining the differences.

It had a similar amount of surface water, but Khethis lacked a moon; tidal forces were therefore only provided by its sun.  More significant was the planet's lack of axial tilt, which meant that the planet had very little in the way of seasons.  The equatorial region was extremely hot year-round, and an approximately six hundred mile wide stretch of desert belted the planet.  Even there, of course, things grew, but only barely, compared to the rest of the world. 

It is the forests of the north (this is an arbitrary designation, as the natives never were known to navigate by compass and we don't actually have data on the planet's magnetic fields) half of the planet that gave rise to the most peculiar organisms.  It is theorized that it was a side effect of the lack of seasons; the primary means of environmental change in an area was continental drift, so the plants, and to a lesser extent the animals of Khethis grew with great longevity.  The natives of Khethis, known to themselves as Taerlae, take approximately six hundred Earth years to reach sexual maturity, and a single tree recovered from the planet had been personally marked by sixteen generations of the same family.  This indicates a potential age of nearly ten thousand years - and the tree was, other than the ancestral marks, not considered unusual to the Taerlae.  Some Earth organisms have lived as long, but very few.

The Taerlae themselves are adaptable to the point of suspicion that they may be an engineered race.  When they are removed from one environment and placed within another, they develop physical characteristics that aid in survival in their new environment.  This ranges from nictating membranes in the eyes (desert) to webbed fingers and toes (aquatic) to a pelt of white fur (snow - they complain that it tends to itch).  Removed from the environment where these adaptations are advantageous, they regress to their original composition within a matter of weeks.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2010, 05:15:07 pm »

^ That has 1 problem. On earth, deserts appear around 20 to 30 degrees north and south off the equator because the high temperature at the equator creates a low pressure region, sucking in water-rich air, which then circulates up and outwards, losing it's watter before dropping back to the surface at the desert belt where it comes down completely dry. So unless air circulation would work a lot different on said planet (very large continent for example) one would expect the relative humidity at the equator to be very high.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 12:26:36 am »

Huh, thanks!  I studied a lot of stuff in preparation for writing sci fi, but meteorology and geography couldn't fit into my schedule.  Fortunately, the desert banding idea for Khethis isn't actually important to the story - more important was the idea of what kind of planet would produce a species that had such great longevity.

I think the odds of me going over the other planets (such as they are) just went up - although one's an ocean planet (at least as far as the aquatic natives can describe it).  I built in some wiggle room for myself in that none of the planets described actually exist anymore at the time the actual novel takes place.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2010, 01:03:08 pm »

Brahe II is a large terrestrial planet that was one of the initial candidates for extrasolar human colonization. Orbiting at just under half an AU from Brahe (a K2-class star just under one third of Sol's luminosity 20.4 light years distant) and massing around three times Earth, and more importantly possessing detectable levels of atmospheric oxygen and water vapor, it was thought to be capable of easily supporting human life without extensive equipment, and the thermonuclear Orion colony ship Dyson was launched with 20,000 colonists aboard to gather more information and, if possible, establish a colony. The total flight time was nearly three hundred years.

On arrival, several aspects of Brahe II that made it less than ideal for colonization were discovered. Brahe II is close enough to its parent star to nearly be tidally locked, experiencing four 720-hour days per year. The high surface gravity (around 1.5 earth) lead to an extremely thick atmosphere (7.5 times earth normal at local sea level), which in turn trapped more radiation from Brahe than previously supposed, causing an average surface temperature of 57.1 Centigrade. The high temperature, coupled with the long days and reasonable hydrographic coverage, causes constant storm systems moving from the hot day side to the cooler night side. The sky is always cloudy, it is rare that it is not raining, and even periods when there are not thunderstorms are uncommon. Despite this, Brahe II has extensive native life, though none of it intelligent. Both the oceans and land are essentially covered with plant-like life, ranging in size from single-celled algae to dense woody land plants up to 10 meters tall. A wide variety of small animals can be found living around the plants, with extensive populations of herbivorous animals less than 50cm in length. All specimens recovered so far have been ectothermic, often possessing significant evaporative cooling areas to maintain body temperature. The lack of larger animals is thought to be attributable to the difficulties of supporting a large body in the higher gravity, and the largest native animals are roughly the size of a large Earth dog. The high plant coverage contributes to the high oxygen partial pressure of 35%, increasing the flammability risk of anything not soaked by the rain and necessitating oxygen-reducing masks at all times. Survey teams report that unassisted movement is difficult, but not impossible, and the Dyson's crew believe that an underground colony (to shield them from the worst of the temperature and weather) would be viable.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2010, 04:41:16 pm »

Wouldn't the most realistic hard planet be

"Iso122

Planet is composed mostly of plagioclase feldspar, cumulate rock, and various silicates and contains a molten iron/nickel core. It lacks an atmosphere and and no longer generates a magnetic field powerful enough to shield it from solar winds. Several deposits of rare elements have been discovered in its crust but no organic molecules have ever been discovered. Surface temps fluctuate between 745K and 120K.  "

Considering that most planets are just hunks of rock without much interesting on them.

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2010, 06:06:43 pm »

Wouldn't the most realistic hard planet be

"Iso122

Planet is composed mostly of plagioclase feldspar, cumulate rock, and various silicates and contains a molten iron/nickel core. It lacks an atmosphere and and no longer generates a magnetic field powerful enough to shield it from solar winds. Several deposits of rare elements have been discovered in its crust but no organic molecules have ever been discovered. Surface temps fluctuate between 745K and 120K.  "

Considering that most planets are just hunks of rock without much interesting on them.

You'd be surprised. That sounds like a planet fairly close to a star (of which, of course, there are some), but surprisingly quickly you get out to the point where the surfaces are mostly ices (water ice 'close' to the star, then carbon dioxide and methane, and then other gasses) rather than rock, since their atmospheres (or what would have been their atmospheres) freezes to the surface when you aren't talking about the habitable band. Additionally, carbon is reasonably common throughout the universe, as is water, and so it doesn't seem unreasonable to have some kind of self-reproducing stuff on planets that do form within the habitable zone, along with some reasonably basic similarities to earth life (For example, some sort of solar energy harvesting organism, some way to regulate internal environment such as either ectothermic behaviors or endothermy, and some sort of food chain - why bother gathering energy yourself when there are all these concentrations of stored energy around? Heads or distributed nervous systems in larger animals are also reasonably likely, because nerve length between sensory organs and the brain is directly proportional to reaction time).

Now, we can argue about the probabilities of planets that can sustain life as we know it, but from what we've observed thus far we have 1/8 planets that will support life in our own solar system (and 1/4 non-gaseous planets), and as we refine our observations of other stars we are seeing that stars with planets aren't uncommon, and that 8 is a bit high but not abnormally so. But that in and of itself can be balanced by the fact that we're looking for the interesting planets, and the ones with life (or the potential for life) are the interesting ones: For every Brahe II, Aurora, or Chasm there may be tens or hundreds of Iso122s, but that still leaves a lot of garden worlds around.

As balance, though, I'll contribute Brahe IV (yes, I made a whole solar system: one star, eleven planets and one asteroid belt. Brahe IV is the third most habitable, by the numbers), phrased as the colonization feasibility report made by the Dyson upon arrival in the system.

Brahe IV, orbiting at 1.02 AU with a diameter of 8800km and a significant moon, would ordinarily be seen as an ideal colonization candidate. However, Brahe's low luminance means that Brahe IV has an average surface temperature of -50 C, a surface covered in water ice, and an atmosphere that, while reasonably dense, is essentially devoid of oxygen. Surface gravity is estimated at .7G. Colonization would be possible, but would require a significant investment - heating would be required and a stable supply of oxygen would be needed (though oxygen compounds such as carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide are present in the atmosphere, so gasses would not need to be imported). Although the thickness of the ice and the precise surface composition are unknown, the ice is believed to be no more than one kilometer thick and density measurements indicate that the surface is rocky with a nickel/iron core. Once again, a subterranean colony would likely be the most viable option, likely tunneling through to the surface both for construction materials and to avoid the dangers of melting the surrounding ice through heat-producing activity. Brahe IV is not thought to harbor any native life.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 07:09:43 am »

I didn't write this, but I thought it might be a cool addition to this topic.

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Initial surveys had classified this as a barren world - sulphurous atmosphere, signs of heavy vulcanism in the planet's past, no life-signs detected on the surface apart from a few resilient algae in the steaming mineral sludge that comprised the shallow oceans.

It was a prospecting mission found them - boring through the old long-cooled lava flows in search of any minerals worth extracting, when one of their core samplers broke through into a vast cavity over a hundred metres below the surface. They tried again a little way away - except this time rather than breaking through, the sampler brought up... artifacts. Or fragments of artifacts, at least. Carved and worked stone, metal and glass.

After that they brought in the xenoarchaeologists, did some deep-level scanning, and discovered a whole network of cavities under there - not the mindless formations of erosion and subsidence, but structures - corridors, hallways, rooms and chambers laid out with orderly deliberation, carved into the bedrock itself. Investigation of other likely-looking sites brought back similar results. Imagine Pompeii or Herculaneum, but engulfing New York, London, Beijing and Rio de Janeiro all at once.

An entire civilisation, buried under hundreds of metres of solidified lava and volcanic ash.

At first we thought it might be some kind of mass-eruption, some tectonic disaster that had immolated and buried the entire planetary surface. That the populace had sought refuge in subterranean cities implied that perhaps they'd seen it coming, had hastily carved out these shelters and planned to wait out the cataclysm, so they had seismologists, vulcanologists, geologists, experts on planetary geophysics come and find out what happened - and whether it could happen again. So they started looking at faultlines and the old cindercones of the world's volcanoes, and the xenoarchaeologists sent a team into the ruins to start exploring and cataloguing.

It wasn't long before the geo-whatevers reported back their preliminary findings, and that got people paying attention. Turns out that there were signs of construction at the volcanoes, too - enormous shafts bored deep into the crust, lined with machinery constructed on a monumental scale.

Consulting with one of the dig's engineers, their best guess was that it was a system of siphons and pumps designed to draw magma from deep down and pour it out onto the surface in vast quantities. They'd deliberately drowned their world in molten rock. Why? God knows. Maybe it was an act of war. Maybe there was some threat on the surface, something they feared so greatly that they would willingly burn their world to destroy it.

It was around the same time that the archaeologists returned from the depths, and their report was even more unsettling. These creatures had a sophisticated culture, and their skill in crafting was unparalleled - you can see the artifacts for yourself, there's plenty of them on display in the Colonial Museums on a dozen planets. Scenes from daily life, historic events, that kind of thing.Exquisitely-worked, sublime in their artistry - especially the pre-Cataclysm pieces. Made the caches in the Valley of the Kings look like junk-shop detritus.

The post-Cataclysm works were also in ready supply - it seems that their civilisation had survived for some time following the volcanic inundation, but the artifacts are altogether... different. Still beautifully-crafted, but the motifs depicted are unsettling, disturbing - all the more so for the attention to detail that was clearly lavished upon them.

Then there were the remains. The long-dead bodies strewn throughout the silent halls, many with marks of violence upon them, even after all this time - pinned to the wall with elegantly-wrought metal weapons, hewn apart with blades that remain sharp to this day. Some madness had seized them - despair, perhaps, at their predicament, trapped so far beneath the surface of a scorched world. Others had withdrawn to secluded chambers and simply laid down to die, alone.

And the carvings... everywhere there were carvings, on every surface. Lovingly-rendered scenes of carnage, of atrocity, every detail graven in stone and preserved for all time. We know how they died - we know in awful, terrible detail how they died, right down to the last of them slumped against a wall with engraving tools at hand, a tiny, pitiful figure carved into the rock beside it.

We know exactly how they died.

But we still don't know why.
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