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[Eugenitor]

There *was* some speaking out during the medieval period, most notable being when a certain someone by the name of Martin Luther protested the act of selling salvation for cash, among other things.

Mars is going to be one huge multi-social experimental experiment when we get to colonizing it.

This assumes that people from different social backgrounds are going to be colonizing it, which is highly unlikely.

This thread, if nothing else, proves that Mars needs to start out with its own unified culture the moment we get boots on the regolith.

It's either that or pull out the sledgehammers later.

[fqllve]

I'm not saying that we should become one global culture (which I doubt has much chance of occuring untill we have more than one globe to culture it up on), but that we should try to avoid radical divisions between the cultures that do exist. I think that we would end up with far more expansive cultures throught this anyway, without the fear of being like a culture that one dislikes driving or limiting your actions

I don't see how many of the differences in cultures have much in the way of radical divisions. Culture is mostly about forms of art, history, language, etc. People who find conflict on these divisions are more looking for conflict than actually finding anything really offensive about it.

If you mean that we should stop seeing it as an ours or theirs affair then yes, I agree with that. I don't think cultural pride necessitates this attitude though. It's mostly just dickbags looking for a fight. I mean, I think English is a completely fucking awesome language and I'm glad to speak it. But that doesn't mean it's better than any other language, it just appeals to me and I'm probably biased as a native speaker.

Edit: It also doesn't mean I think you should speak it or get out of our country. Again, dickbags.

[Realmfighter]

When we get to Mars I say we put a thousand babies of every race and culture under the sun, and interact with them as little as possible while still keeping them alive.

Just to see what would happen.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There *was* some speaking out during the medieval period, most notable being when a certain someone by the name of Martin Luther protested the act of selling salvation for cash, among other things.

Well, and don't quote me on this because I don't know the particular area of history enough to state this with certainty, but as I recall it the Popes of Martin Luther's time had gained serious unpopularity for all the excommunication threats they dished out to any King who defied them, so Martin Luther probably would have been in a very good postion to get fed up and unknowingly kick off the Protestant Reformation.

[fqllve]

When we get to Mars I say we put a thousand babies of every race and culture under the sun, and interact with them as little as possible while still keeping them alive.

Just to see what would happen.

Well, they're babies. So they'd probably just develop their own culture.

[smjjames]

Mars is going to be one huge multi-social experimental experiment when we get to colonizing it.

This assumes that people from different social backgrounds are going to be colonizing it, which is highly unlikely.

This thread, if nothing else, proves that Mars needs to start out with its own unified culture the moment we get boots on the regolith.

It's either that or pull out the sledgehammers later.

I know there won't be a great deal of variation during the initial colonization period, I meant later on after the first few colonies are able to sustain themselves and it's possible to have splinter colonies that are more or less isolated.

I'm not doubting that there will be an unified culture as colonies get established, but whether we like it or not, there will be people who want to establish an isolated colony. The technologyand infrastructure just needs to get to the point where people can do that more or less easily.

[ECrownofFire]

When we get to Mars I say we put a thousand babies of every race and culture under the sun, and interact with them as little as possible while still keeping them alive.

Just to see what would happen.

Why not do this on an island on Earth? Much cheaper, and less chance for something terrible to go wrong. And yeah, they'd just develop their own culture. Be interesting to see the language develop though.

[Eugenitor]

When we get to Mars I say we put a thousand babies of every race and culture under the sun, and interact with them as little as possible while still keeping them alive.

Just to see what would happen.

Well, they're babies. So they'd probably just develop their own culture.

This.

Of course "keeping them alive" on an uninhabitable world would entail teaching them science, engineering, and various mortal dangers such as what happens when you run out of water. Meaning that they'd probably become a cautious, tight-knit clan of paranoids. (Hmm. Origins of conservatism?)

[Realmfighter]

I know, but Mars sounds so much more Supervilliany.
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Keeping them alive could mean never letting them out of the habitat, and dropping food pellets onto there heads.

[fqllve]

Why not do this on an island on Earth? Much cheaper, and less chance for something terrible to go wrong. And yeah, they'd just develop their own culture. Be interesting to see the language develop though.

You should read about the Creolization of Pidgins. It's pretty awesome.

[smjjames]

Why not do this on an island on Earth? Much cheaper, and less chance for something terrible to go wrong. And yeah, they'd just develop their own culture. Be interesting to see the language develop though.

You should read about the Creolization of Pidgins. It's pretty awesome.

Mars will definetly give new languages a chance to arise. Initially it's going to be a mixture of english and whatever other languages people speak, but over time it will evolve as a whole.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I don't think your experiment would work out on Earth or Mars. Interacting with them as little as possible while leaving them in a state to survive would entail...raising them like any other children. Primates, especially humans, thrive off of parental support for a decently long period of time, and can turn out very badly if they don't have it. Before ethical guidlines were instituted, there was a (possibly fake, I can't find an article that confirms it) experiment that showed a newborn can just die if given everything it needs to physically stay alive without human contact. Even if not that strong of a reaction, social depravation at any point in childhood can lead to horrible outcomes. They would have already picked up the beliefs of others by the time you could leave them on Mars to survive.

[ECrownofFire]

I don't think your experiment would work out on Earth or Mars. Interacting with them as little as possible while leaving them in a state to survive would entail...raising them like any other children. Primates, especially humans, thrive off of parental support for a decently long period of time, and can turn out very badly if they don't have it. Before ethical guidlines were instituted, there was a (possibly fake, I can't find an article that confirms it) experiment that showed a newborn can just die if given everything it needs to physically stay alive without human contact. Even if not that strong of a reaction, social depravation at any point in childhood can lead to horrible outcomes. They would have already picked up the beliefs of others by the time you could leave them on Mars to survive.

It's simple really, just take regular people, and remove all their memories.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's simple really, just take regular people, and remove all their memories.

Because that is totally ethical and doesn't have the possibility of crippling them mentally.

[Realmfighter]

WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.

SUPER VILLAINY IS IN OUR BLOOD.