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[KaelGotDwarves]

No, it's a missile test, the guy was just talking about his experience at Vandenberg, but they do missile launches from that area fairly often. It's just hilarious everyone's freaking out because they did a particularly big launch this time.

Also posted on the thread:

NOTAM for LA.
KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 - THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE - FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

Translation: "We're shooting a god damn rocket through the sky so GTFO"

EDIT: And to answer your question about why the military is being unclear about it, they weren't. They just didn't feel like exposing to the entire world that they may be conducting a test, they warned people to get out of the area, and when CBS asked the Navy if they fired a missile, the Navy said no because that missile is under jurisdiction of the AIR FORCE. So CBS asked the Airforce base if they launched a missile from Vandenberg and Vandenberg said no, BECAUSE THEY LAUNCHED IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

So CBS, being the idiots they are blows up this news report into "NO NOEZ WE DON'T KNOW WHO LAUNCHED THIS MYSTERY THING" while the Air Force has been saying the whole time - Look, we're firing a damn missile test so clear this area.

[RedKing]

Heh. Good find. Although...hmmm...it was created Monday night but the window of notification is for tonight through 1am tomorrow??

Even if the timestamps are for Zulu/GMT time, that wouldn't make sense as tying to this incident. Unless they're planning to launch something else tonight.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Well, looks like they're conducting wargames scenario of some sort. Looks fun.

EDIT- also sector they're talking about.
http://skyvector.com/?ll=34.03656120385772,-121.69918142437554&chart=24&zoom=5

[PTTG??]

Then there's this. So, one way or annother, it's probably not an Atlantean invasion gone wrong or a soviet chinese nuclear sub stolen by talibans from north korea on behaf of scientology.

Yeah, my concern was mainly wishful thinking that the US could be blasted before the tea party congress could get started and do something worse.

[KaminaSquirtle]

Then there's this. So, one way or annother, it's probably not an Atlantean invasion gone wrong or a soviet chinese nuclear sub stolen by talibans from north korea on behaf of scientology.

Yeah, my concern was mainly wishful thinking that the US could be blasted before the tea party congress could get started and do something worse.

You forgot the Mexican drug cartels.

[Eugenitor]

When the Illuminati want to fly their new awesome jets, they'll do it when and how they feel like it, thanks.

[Earthquake Damage]

Yeah, my concern was mainly wishful thinking that the US could be blasted before the tea party congress could get started and do something worse.

Yes, it's always better to destroy fucking everything than risk a few years of bad government.  In fact, history has proven that the world never recovers from counterproductive (or just plain unproductive) regimes.  In other words, life does not, in fact, go on.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Meh. Don't drag politics into a perfectly fun missile fearmongering discussion.

Also, California voted almost pure Democrat (all higher office officials)/liberally except for legalizing Marijuana (and boondocks house districts in shitty conservative places like the valley) this election cycle.

[Nikov]

Good to know PTTG can't find another reason why my cousin would become an Engineer save mavolence and stupidity, and he would rather the country be nuked than see half of the legislative branch in conservative hands.

In other news, CBS is relevant to a news-related discussion for the first time in recent memory. However they manage to demonstrate that they just make shit up, so I doubt this will be the story that saves network television.

[RedKing]

I'm not buying the "it's a horizontal jet contrail at a weird angle". That would have to be bending things to damn near non-Euclidean geometry to look like that.

The wargame idea sounds plausible.

[Nikov]

I fully support the 'CBS manufactures a story from a routine missile firing'. It doesn't even need to be a wargame, really. The army shoots up all its ammunition after it reaches the last year of its shelf life and a nuclear missile with a thousand fiddly pipes and sensors and valves just needs to be taken off the shelf and fired once in a while to see if nothing is corroding or failing with age.

[runiq]

I'm not buying the "it's a horizontal jet contrail at a weird angle". That would have to be bending things to damn near non-Euclidean geometry to look like that.

Now I’m also with Cthulhu.

[PTTG??]

...2: What else is going to get people to volunteer to go to terribly uncomfortable foreign places and trade bullets with people they've never met? Bear in mind, both of my parents are noncombat air force veterans...

Calm down, Nikov. If I meant it, I wouldn't have included my parents in there. The real reasons people join the military are largely similar to the reasons they get other jobs (money, particularly for education, healthcare, etc.), plus uniforms look cool. And certainly the majority of soldiers also feel that hey, they're helping somebody out. Soldiers deserve our respect and admiration, even if we disagree with the orders they are occasionally given. In this very narrow context of this thread, I made a silly fun times laugh saying joke for comedy value, one that poked good-natured fun at my own values and the predjuces of others, and said joke took the basic form of myself being sarcastically exasperated with nearly entirely fictional military failings.

You forgot the Mexican drug cartels.

See, now KaminaSquirtle gets it!

Rest assured, I realize that even having every congressperson replaced with a tea party member would not only be hilarious but also very much likely not worse than nuclear anhillation, at least for one or two terms.

All of my rethoric here is meant to be taken lightly and/or not at face value, much like how people saying that obama is a socialis muslim almost certainly don't believe that, and are only trying to get a laugh.

The real people responsible for this whole debacle, besides myself for overestimating other's ability to detect sarcasm, is the news media for blowing the whole original story out of proportion. Agreed?

[Aqizzar]

You forgot the Mexican drug cartels.

The Underwater Invasion of the Drug Lords - they're inventive little buggers.

I told my Dad about the story, and his first response was pondering how fun it would be to build a little remote-control airplane with a radar reflector and fly it across a military base.  Watch them freak the fuck out.

[Akura]

Unaccounted for "missiles" you mean.  There's no proof it was a missile.

Great.  So, if you hear a breaking of glass downstairs and there's no proof it's a burglar...

Hey, I own 6 big dogs. If I hear glass breaking, then it's either the dogs, or a dead burglar.

And there's no reason for them to be mutually exclusive.