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Lots of small groups

61 (64.2%)

A few big groups

34 (35.8%)

Total Members Voted: 95

[The Doctor]

Standard topic, just wondering, which type of migrants groups do you prefer? Occasional (once a year or two years) groups of 20 migrants? Or lots (twice a season, maybe) of up to 5 dwarfs?


I'd prefer the second one, so I don't get overwhelmed and say "Fuck it, you're all military now."

[AngleWyrm]

I would like to see family size immigrant waves. Dad's a farmer with some brewery, Mom's a tanner with butchery, and they have two children, a cat, a dog and a horse. And maybe they have a hired hand who is a fighter-3, milker. And if you do good export-wise and earn a big wave, they bring their friends George and Michelle with them.

So the total wave size is somewhere between 1~6 dwarves plus children and animals, with 6 being hard-earned and two being more typical.

[madmaxxam]

I would like to see family size immigrant waves. Dad's a farmer with some brewery, Mom's a tanner with butchery, and they have two children, a cat, a dog and a horse. And maybe they have a hired hand who is a fighter-3, milker. And if you do good export-wise and earn a big wave, they bring their friends George and Michelle with them.

So the total wave size is somewhere between 1~6 dwarves plus children and animals, with 6 being hard-earned and two being more typical.

Seems like this would increase the number of immigrant children.  And I hate children. 

[NewSheoth]

I would like to see family size immigrant waves. Dad's a farmer with some brewery, Mom's a tanner with butchery, and they have two children, a cat, a dog and a horse. And maybe they have a hired hand who is a fighter-3, milker. And if you do good export-wise and earn a big wave, they bring their friends George and Michelle with them.

So the total wave size is somewhere between 1~6 dwarves plus children and animals, with 6 being hard-earned and two being more typical.

Seems like this would increase the number of immigrant children.  And I hate children.

Sorry, I couldn't resist picturing THIS running a fortress:

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And here are the possible results of a !!fun!! incindent with a FB made of flame. Note the troglodytes in the background:

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[Musashi]

Big pack of migrants. I don't want to micromanage new dwarves regularly, but only once or twice a year, once and for all. That's how my fortress seems to be working, too.

[EvilFuzzy9]

I prefer numerous small groups, mainly (in theory) because a steady trickle of new blood is easier to manage than seasonal floods of gore.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Smaller immigrant groups don't put such a strain on my miners' ability to mine out more rooms instead of the winding tunnels and such. I put a couple bedrooms way in the back of my fort because that's where my miners were digging.

[NewSheoth]

Smaller immigrant groups don't put such a strain on my miners' ability to mine out more rooms instead of the winding tunnels and such. I put a couple bedrooms way in the back of my fort because that's where my miners were digging.

This.
Also, easier to designate labours that I want on the newcomers when they're few.

[Killing Time]

Big pack of migrants. I don't want to micromanage new dwarves regularly, but only once or twice a year, once and for all. That's how my fortress seems to be working, too.

Same here.
Most of my dwarves live in dorms and there's usually more than enough room for new arrivals. If I need more room and the miners are dead or busy I just plonk some beds down in an empty ore vein. That keeps the migrants until new rooms are dug.

[The Doctor]

I didn't expect to get so many votes so fast.


I guess Toady could take a look at the coding and see if he can give an option to choose between the two, eh? Keep everyone happy.


Since the "Smallers" outvote the "Biggers" (wut) by 2 to 1, I guess small could be the default?

Of course, other things come first, but hey!~ Who knows what he'll do.

[Johnny Madhouse]

Small groups interrupt the pacing a lot less I think. Even if they come more often, I don't get bored going through Dwarf Therapist checking to see which professions I need and which I already have, which is very nice.

[Uzu Bash]

Having available dorm space really makes this question matter less; I could deal with either way pretty much the same. If I decide to carve living space, something useful always falls out of the walls, if I decide to follow veins instead, then the space left behind can hold temporary housing. Until I get around to placing them in jobs, they're still welcome as extra haulers.

[GearedLogos]

Is there any reason why a setting can't be placed in the init file with the option to chose?

For example two options, how often migrants will make the journey. Whether it is twice a season or once a year.

Second, how many dwarfs will be in each set. Maybe an minimum and maximum value that you can set.

[Uzu Bash]

Whether it is twice a season or once a year.

If they came that often, I forsee security issues. In that light, a big annual group would be a lot simpler to shepherd, and would tie up the military less often.

[Shrugging Khan]

Smaller groups. Make for less of a bad reputation if they *do* accidentally step in a puddle of magma, or get shot by a stray ballista bolt.

Or a spontaneous congregation of ambushers.