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DuckBoy2

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!!Bed!!
« on: November 09, 2010, 12:59:43 am »

I've just had the most wonderful idea!  What if a room full of furniture mysteriously caught fire, and happened to be assigned to my noblemen?  Further, what if all of the furniture pieces were artifacts and could not be destroyed?  Could I simply assign the room to the current and all future dukes/duchesses?  Would they sleep in such conditions?  Would they be ecstatic about it? 

What is the most efficient way to construct this?


What is the most dwarven way?  I'm thinking I might need a dragon to light the furniture...   
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 01:14:47 am »

I'm pretty sure that furniture is just like goods are for dwarves. To be used one way or another, no matter if they're on fire or not. So even a !!object!! will get hauled, or a !!furniture!! will get used.

Dropping 1/7 magma on the bed should be enough to set it on fire without having to catch a dragon.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 01:31:43 am »

But if it is a built bed (a building, not a bed object sitting around in a stockpile) then will it catch on fire?  I'm thinking probably not, but I wonder if you could get it to catch on fire and then have a (very quick) dwarf build it into a bed?
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 01:43:39 am »

I've seen dwarves on fire go take a nap or go rest on beds, which also caught fire.
The heat generated apparently ignites anything appropriate on the same tile. Only exception I can think of would be nether-cap furniture, or whatever those UG trees with a fixed temp were again.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 02:18:34 am »

It should be easy. 
Step 1:  Acquire a set of flammable, artifact furniture (table, chair, bed, cabinet/coffer, armor/weapon stand/rack, and door)
step 2:  Place artifact furniture in magma chamber
step 3:  Flood with magma
step 4:  Drain chamber
step 5:  Turn off temperature
step 6:  build furniture
step 7:  assign room
step 8:  turn temperature on.
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This is a useful feature..and this is DF.. so im gonna assume its bugged
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 02:54:31 am »

two words

lignite room
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 02:57:12 am »

two words

lignite room
The problem is constructions wont burn.  So you would need a lignite bridge and lignite furniture.  But lignite furniture would eventually burn away.
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This is a useful feature..and this is DF.. so im gonna assume its bugged
That's what cages and minecart shotguns are for!  We don't need to control them.  We just need to aim them.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2010, 03:05:15 am »

cover the floor in a 'carpet' of cloth ropes?

nether-cap furniture, or whatever those UG trees with a fixed temp were again.
nether-cap is correct, it's fixed temp is 10000; which is at the freezing point of water. Don't make buckets out of this material! :o
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 03:06:01 am »

I had an Artifact Lignite door once... but, that was in a weird world with no lava....

The topic is making me sleepy, off to !!Bed!!.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 03:37:36 am »

Artifacts can be destroyed, and whoever made them will go mad when that happens.  Otherwise it's a pretty good plan, just make sure to lock the door to prevent !!fun!! for all.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 05:22:19 am »

I've just had the most wonderful idea!  What if a room full of furniture mysteriously caught fire, and happened to be assigned to my noblemen?  Further, what if all of the furniture pieces were artifacts and could not be destroyed?  Could I simply assign the room to the current and all future dukes/duchesses?  Would they sleep in such conditions?  Would they be ecstatic about it? 

What is the most efficient way to construct this?


What is the most dwarven way?  I'm thinking I might need a dragon to light the furniture...   

I just had the most beautiful idea of a noble's room with nothing but lignite furniture, even the door and an artifact lignite bed (or just mod the files so beds can be made from rocks).  It made me giggle for more than 15 seconds so I probably shouldn't do it, but it'd be so awesome.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 05:55:01 am »

nether-cap is correct, it's fixed temp is 10000; which is at the freezing point of water. Don't make buckets out of this material! :o

So it'd be a functional idea to make a noble disposal room that has nethercap furniture, noble goes in, magma goes in, noble is burnt to crisp, but the furniture is unharmed. Flush magma, room is usable again with no hint to the horrors that occurred there.

Although I guess you could use any magma-safe furniture, metals or stone for the same functionality.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2010, 06:44:46 am »

Although I guess you could use any magma-safe furniture, metals or stone for the same functionality.

two words

lignite room
I suggest using graphite instead, as IIRC it's immune to fire damage but flammable.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2010, 07:00:51 am »

I believe you could mod in stone beds.
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Re: !!Bed!!
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2010, 08:50:22 am »

I suggest using graphite instead, as IIRC it's immune to fire damage but flammable.
Where did you hear that?  Graphite should take damage from fire like any other flammable material.

Artifacts are supposedly immune from fire damage because artifacts can't be gradually destroyed.  Artifacts can be instantly destroyed by bridges or caveins or similar means, but don't wear out gradually.  Fire does damage gradually, essentially wearing the object away, so artifacts should be immune to fire and burn forever.  I haven't tested this myself and don't know if it actually works this way.
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