Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

Nothing

4 (36.4%)

A little

0 (0%)

Some

1 (9.1%)

A bit

1 (9.1%)

A bunch

0 (0%)

A lot

1 (9.1%)

A ton

1 (9.1%)

All of it

3 (27.3%)

Total Members Voted: 11

[DrunkDorfPally]

"I'meh just th' 'executioner' fer punishments if you'll let meh y' gits, therefore I shoul' nae vote-twould' nae bae fair." Tor replies as he stays in the background.  He practices various motions.  ((*Hand chopping and trying to carve runes on a persons face w/ a 1h axe, probably be'd very messy.  XD*))

Anyway, updated personal Stockpile since we're talking about those.
-Knapsack (Given by camp, V I think. TYVM V.)
-20 Booze, dwarf beer (Will be 19 after I drop one off at the butcher for "payment.")
-Backpack (personal gear)
-Clothes X1 (personal gear, wearing rags is a in-game thing dwarves do anyway.  XP)
-1 h battleaxe, 1 h warhammer, 1 Tower Shield (Iron for all three I think, personal starting gear.).
-Pickaxe (Bronze(?), from stockpiles.)
-Fishing pole (From stockpiles)

-Kobold Skull

[V-Norrec]

((You can't carry all that around, you haven't been chosen to deliver punishment, the voting will take place only among the three judges, and I doubt you need to pay the butcher, as we are all currently working for survival, not profit.  No, I didn't give you a Knapsack, maybe they're standard now I don't know.  Also, the pickax and fishing pole aren't personal gear unless you are either a. currently using them, b. steal them.))

[Hastur]

Kogan to testify that the work on his golem was done free of charge with no payment received of any kind."

"Yes, my work on the golem was done with no payment expected or received, only my hopes that the golem would be used to help ensure our continued survival."

"since the repair of the golem, the golem has done significant work for the betterment of the whole expedition,digging for example. i am glad it is in good shape, or Norrec might not be here today to grace us with his presence. Didnt he go down to the first volley of kobold arrows? i seem to remember the  golem rescuing him under fire, his strength enabled him to rescue norrec before the next volley of arrows even, if us dwarves had been first to norrecs aid, we would have many more dead or injured i'd wager, as we picked norrec up as a group and limped off with him while under constant arrow fire. If i had not been there to back norrec up, or if the golem had never been repaired, we would still be in mourning i think. I would like to think that kogan is very satisfied with his foresight, i cannot presume to speak for him, but i know i would be.

If the golem were not repaired, i would not have learned any swordsmanship, if i wasnt eager to test my skill on the kobolds i would not have gone into battle, if i had not backed up norrec, the rest of those that were present might have tried to slowly drag norrec away in a gurney or something worse, imagine if he were left behind, or if he had 3 wounded dwarves laid low by kobold arrows. I bet none of the other dwarves present would have left him behind to die. are the rest of those that were present even as well armoured as him?

[DrunkDorfPally]

((You can't carry all that around, you haven't been chosen to deliver punishment, the voting will take place only among the three judges, and I doubt you need to pay the butcher, as we are all currently working for survival, not profit.  No, I didn't give you a Knapsack, maybe they're standard now I don't know.  Also, the pickax and fishing pole aren't personal gear unless you are either a. currently using them, b. steal them.))

((They're in my room.  XP  And yes, I use them, you said we had to go get our own food remember?  And mining is on my list of tasks.))

[IronyOwl]

((Decoration list updated. Boy, I hope you make copies of these things when we post them instead of going back ten pages to fish them out later. ))

Spoiler: Decorations By Recipient (click to show/hide)

Ochita: Two Dwarves Cuddling
Kogan: Mechanism
Adil: Sunset
Gar: Gauntlet
Shem: Heavy Pick
Norrec: Hipobis
Kog: Plump Helmet
Litast: Coin
Sandow: Hand holding sword with three kobold skulls impaled on it
Tor: Crossed Hammer and Axe

Hopefully this will improve mood a bit. If you've got a decoration you'd prefer, speak up.

((Also, if any NPCs/PCs I skipped want one, speak up.))

[Ochita]

(Booze and food is communal. Sooo... Unless you want to go out of your way to do something then...)

[DrunkDorfPally]

((Decoration list updated. Boy, I hope you make copies of these things when we post them instead of going back ten pages to fish them out later. ))

Spoiler: Decorations By Recipient (click to show/hide)

Ochita: Two Dwarves Cuddling
Kogan: Mechanism
Adil: Sunset
Gar: Gauntlet
Shem: Heavy Pick
Norrec: Hipobis
Kog: Plump Helmet
Litast: Coin
Sandow: Hand holding sword with three kobold skulls impaled on it
Tor: Crossed Hammer and Axe

Hopefully this will improve mood a bit. If you've got a decoration you'd prefer, speak up.

((Also, if any NPCs/PCs I skipped want one, speak up.))

((TY for decor, it's very nice.  XD))  BIC:  *While waitiing on trial, he goes pays off his debts, 1 booze barrel at this butcher and two more at the communal stockpile for pickaxe and fishing pole.*  ((Booze stockpile is now 17.))

[DrunkDorfPally]

(Booze and food is communal. Sooo... Unless you want to go out of your way to do something then...)

((If you saw my original list, I brought those with me, therefore they are mine by default, I use them for barter/trade.  Ask the DM.))

[V-Norrec]

((..... Well then hot damn I own a tent, and furniture set that everybody's been using.  Pay up!  You see why we have agreed to have everything be communal for now?))

[elitetaco3519]

Yeah I aslo want to make inventory changes. I want
One bag
One crosbow
One quiver of bolts

[Ochita]

Kogan to testify that the work on his golem was done free of charge with no payment received of any kind."

"Yes, my work on the golem was done with no payment expected or received, only my hopes that the golem would be used to help ensure our continued survival."

"since the repair of the golem, the golem has done significant work for the betterment of the whole expedition,digging for example. i am glad it is in good shape, or Norrec might not be here today to grace us with his presence. Didnt he go down to the first volley of kobold arrows? i seem to remember the  golem rescuing him under fire, his strength enabled him to rescue norrec before the next volley of arrows even, if us dwarves had been first to norrecs aid, we would have many more dead or injured i'd wager, as we picked norrec up as a group and limped off with him while under constant arrow fire. If i had not been there to back norrec up, or if the golem had never been repaired, we would still be in mourning i think. I would like to think that kogan is very satisfied with his foresight, i cannot presume to speak for him, but i know i would be.

If the golem were not repaired, i would not have learned any swordsmanship, if i wasnt eager to test my skill on the kobolds i would not have gone into battle, if i had not backed up norrec, the rest of those that were present might have tried to slowly drag norrec away in a gurney or something worse, imagine if he were left behind, or if he had 3 wounded dwarves laid low by kobold arrows. I bet none of the other dwarves present would have left him behind to die. are the rest of those that were present even as well armoured as him?

"Ahem. What I do know, is that Norrec is female. Obviously you don't know alot about this group."

[V-Norrec]

((Assuming the text above was his argument of course))

"We're not here to debate whether or not your golem has proven useful, we're here to decide whether or not you have attempted to steal from the other dwarves here at the fortress.  You simply must face the facts that attempting to steal from Urist and I five times (once for each item), Gar twice, once successfully, Litast once, and take someone's personal Leather Armor is unacceptable for anyone.  I should like to see what you would do if I attempted, for example, to steal your iron golem nine times.  T'is no different then how you have treated your fellow dwarves."

"If you wish to get into an argument about the golem, very well, I will explain my reasoning.  When we came here, everything was put into a stockpile and was decided to be used as needed by the community.  Included in that stockpile were metal fittings with which we could begin constructing furniture so that we would be able to create doors, and other find implements for both comfort and security.  When your golem began to break down, which you bought as it was with no expectation of being able to repair it once we got here, you had two of our dwarves spend an entire day, which could have been spent doing other things, such as finding food, mining, building a protective wall, etc., repairing YOUR golem with communal fittings.  In fact, your golem required most of the fitting we had left.  In the end, you essentially stole their those fittings and the time of the dwarves who worked on your golem because you are in no way interested in sharing ANYTHING you think belongs to you with any other dwarf." 

Your selfish ways truly know no bounds do they Sandow?  You think it's perfectly acceptable to use goods that have been set aside by the community for bettering the entire community to better only yourself.  You see no problem with stealing from anyone in this camp, at any time.  You even attempted to steal from a grieving lover.  I'm surprised that they even allowed you to call yourself a noble, as there is certainly nothing noble in your actions.  You've constantly be attempting to sabotage the works of the other dwarves by building your own personal rooms which we have had to force you to abandon many times over.  In the end, the only thing that matters to you Sandow, is how many valuables, how much power you have at the end of the day, isn't it?  It doesn't matter that the other dwarves in this fortress might be in danger because of your actions.  As long as Sandow gets what Sandow wants, right?  If you have enough money, you can buy your way out of any problem, can't you?  At least that's what I assume you must be thinking because that's clearly what your actions are showing.  Your Honors, I turn the floor over to Sandow to answer the questions raised in his second argument.

((Damn, I'd make a good lawyer ))

[Shade-o]

Aggressor Statement 1
Norrec's presentation is marred by appearing overly aggressive and unfocused.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

"Very well, I hereby swear to Ekast, Goddesses of oaths and loyalty, that I, Norrec Rikkirmebzuth, will only work to administering justice, and only through truthful means.  Let no deceit cross my lips, so help me."

Take Unclaimed gold bar, Flawless Jet, steel dagger+1 if unclaimed, leather armour unless inconvenient, claim those extra clothes as a change of clothes.

Those are Norrec's gold bars, Coughdrop's jet, Samthere's dagger, Rolan's clothes and the armour could belong to a few people. I should note down if its personally owned.

"To affirm that as I claim, the various goods that Sandow attempted to steal were in the possession of others, I call Urist Orebalance, or if the court believe he is too biased a witness, then Litast, whom was nearly a victim of this particular crime."

*Insert Litast's or Urist's statement here*

"This was merely the first in a long history of attempted theft however.  I would like to bring up several more incidents to prove that this is a pattern of behavior that action must be taken against or else risk having is spread to other members of our fortress and setting this fortress up to be no more than a den of thieves."

I claim her bed! and the gold bars+anything else Drag it to my bedroom.

"His greed also took hold during the short time in which I was dead as he attempted to steal my goods from Urist, to whom they should rightfully be passed down to.  This unabashed greed and willingness to steal from others has been proven multiple times over and this is a most callous example as he attempted to steal from a grieving lover, who just witnessed his lover's violent murder.  Have you no shame Sandow?  HAVE YOU NO SHAME?"

i read i before it was cool

New schedule
000-700;7hours; Train sword skill on golem. Golem digs meanwhile (a bedroom 2 squares big, one square of which will be for the door)
700-800 ;1hour; eat the best available,warm it up at the fire. golem diggs in my place.

800-1500;7hours;Train a dog for tracking by searching for mikhails hiding spot, use his grave or personal effects as a scent reference, track the missing male chicken with any spare time.
1500-1600;1hour; eat the best available, and warm it up at the fire. golem digs while i eat

1600-2300; sleep in bed, golem stands guard in doorway.
2300-2400; eat in bed. have the golem warm it up in the fire. golem digs while i eat and watch him

"I would also like to point out that in his latest attempt to steal from those who set up the fortress beside him, he took possession of somebody's dog, without asking might I add, trained him in tracking, at the very least as the extent of the training is not known to anyone other than Sandow, and then tracked down goods belonging to Mikhail and claimed all of what he found for his own, as can very clearly be seen by the growth of his personal possessions, despite many of those goods being found could have been used to help the fortress in general.  I would also like to remind the judges that much work in the fortress was put forth to ensuring the continued operation of what he claims to be HIS golem.  We did this at great risk to the fortress as many of the metal fittings were needed for construction and took much time to apply to his golem, and that no payment of any kind was given by Sandow for the repair of his golem but done merely out of the good will of the members of this fortress."

"I call Tholtig to testify to the growth of the personal possessions, Gar to comment on the stealing of his puppy and, Kogan to testify that the work on his golem was done free of charge with no payment received of any kind."

"Well, I can't swear what he had or didn't have, or what he might have been hiding. I can say he now has a lot more than any of us ever did, and a lot more than we ever knew he had."

"Yes, my work on the golem was done with no payment expected or received, only my hopes that the golem would be used to help ensure our continued survival."

"Well.. The fact that he did, infact try to take Norrec's stuff that should have been passed on to me clearly shows a deep lack of respect for other people and their belongings. If he is guilty then he should be taught a lesson on his greed."

"With all of this evidence, we can be certain the Sandow has displayed an attitude of contempt for other members of this fortress, not only by attempting to steal items that rightfully belonged to them, but in the case of Gar's puppy, successfully stealing another's pet, merely for his own personal gain.  This pattern of behavior is unmistakable, and it is my hope that the judges will come to the same conclusion as I, that this behavior is completely inappropriate and should not be tolerated by any member of this fortress, noble or not, for any reason."

((Note to those called, please comment only on the matters you were called about, refrain from details not necessary to the story and also refrain from giving your own opinion on this case))

Defender Statement 1
Sandow eloquently explains his position, and manages to not be too condescending.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

"since the repair of the golem, the golem has done significant work for the betterment of the whole expedition,digging for example. i am glad it is in good shape, or Norrec might not be here today to grace us with his presence. Didnt he go down to the first volley of kobold arrows? i seem to remember the  golem rescuing him under fire, his strength enabled him to rescue norrec before the next volley of arrows even, if us dwarves had been first to norrecs aid, we would have many more dead or injured i'd wager, as we picked norrec up as a group and limped off with him while under constant arrow fire. If i had not been there to back norrec up, or if the golem had never been repaired, we would still be in mourning i think. I would like to think that kogan is very satisfied with his foresight, i cannot presume to speak for him, but i know i would be.

If the golem were not repaired, i would not have learned any swordsmanship, if i wasnt eager to test my skill on the kobolds i would not have gone into battle, if i had not backed up norrec, the rest of those that were present might have tried to slowly drag norrec away in a gurney or something worse, imagine if he were left behind, or if he had 3 wounded dwarves laid low by kobold arrows. I bet none of the other dwarves present would have left him behind to die. are the rest of those that were present even as well armoured as him?

Aggressor Statement 2
Norrec presents her side with a better control over her rage.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

"We're not here to debate whether or not your golem has proven useful, we're here to decide whether or not you have attempted to steal from the other dwarves here at the fortress.  You simply must face the facts that attempting to steal from Urist and I five times (once for each item), Gar twice, once successfully, Litast once, and take someone's personal Leather Armor is unacceptable for anyone.  I should like to see what you would do if I attempted, for example, to steal your iron golem nine times.  T'is no different then how you have treated your fellow dwarves."

"If you wish to get into an argument about the golem, very well, I will explain my reasoning.  When we came here, everything was put into a stockpile and was decided to be used as needed by the community.  Included in that stockpile were metal fitting with which we could begin constructing furniture so that we would be able to create doors, and other find implements for both comfort and security.  When your golem began to break down, which you bought as it was with no expectation of being able to repair it once we got here, you had two of our dwarves spend an entire day, which could have been spent doing other things, such as finding food, mining, building a protective wall, etc., repairing YOUR golem with communal fittings.  In fact, your golem required most of the fitting we had left.  In the end, you essentially stole their those fittings and the time of the dwarves who worked on your golem because you are in no way interested in sharing ANYTHING you think belongs to you with any other dwarf." 

Your selfish ways truly know no bounds do they Sandow?  You think it's perfectly acceptable to use goods that have been set aside by the community for bettering the entire community to better only yourself.  You see no problem with stealing from anyone in this camp, at any time.  You even attempted to steal from a grieving lover.  I'm surprised that they even allowed you to call yourself a noble, as there is certainly nothing noble in your actions.  You've constantly be attempting to sabotage the works of the other dwarves by building your own personal rooms which we have had to force you to abandon many times over.  In the end, the only thing that matters to you Sandow, is how many valuables, how much power you have at the end of the day, isn't it?  It doesn't matter that the other dwarves in this fortress might be in danger because of your actions.  As long as Sandow gets what Sandow wants, right?  If you have enough money, you can buy your way out of any problem, can't you?  At least that's what I assume you must be thinking because that's clearly what your actions are showing.  Your Honors, I turn the floor over to Sandow to answer the questions raised in his second argument.

Defender Statement 2

Aggressor Statement 3

Defender Statement 3

[Shade-o]

Colonial Law is the Best Law.

[Ochita]

Colonial Law is the Best Law. THE BEST.