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[Org]

You guys are getting trolled hard.

[rawr359]

What is Asperger's anyway?

[iceball3]

What is Asperger's anyway?

Think of it on a different spot on the spectrum which isn't as notable as actual autism, but nearly equally imparing nevertheless.
But enough of that here. I plastered an everything thread onto the GD board.

[Vector]

What is Asperger's anyway?

Mild form of autism, basically--so "unbelievably shitty social skills, to the point where you wonder if the person in question is trolling you."  Some people get over it, some people don't, and others build enough strange workarounds that they end up functioning largely normally.  There's different degrees of functioning.

Meh.

[sonerohi]

I've heard Aspergers described as being a savant of sorts. Lack of social skills like Vector said, inabilities to empathize and such; but the person will go beast mode on topics that catch their interest.

[Vector]

I've heard Aspergers described as being a savant of sorts. Lack of social skills like Vector said, inabilities to empathize and such; but the person will go beast mode on topics that catch their interest.

Asperger's is separate from savant syndrome.  It is characterized by narrow, obsessive interests, but that doesn't mean that the person in question is very good at them...

Savant syndrome is generally mental retardation, coupled with an almost supernatural ability in some other area.  Typically, it's things like "counting," "piano," or "memorizing digits of pi."

[ChairmanPoo]

In psychiatry class they were defined as different things, asperger's and autism. There were signs and symptoms present in one and not the other, and viceversa. Plus, asperger's IQs were in normalcy range, versus actual autism-sufferers, of which 75% were under the mental retardation thres--

*falls to the floor with a shuriken embedded on his back*

[Vector]

In psychiatry class they were defined as different things, asperger's and autism. There were signs and symptoms present in one and not the other, and viceversa. Plus, asperger's IQs were in normalcy range, versus actual autism-sufferers, of which 75% were under the mental retardation threshold.

The only real diagnostic difference in the DSM-IV is that people with autism speak late.  Also, because the differences are so few, they're apparently planning on lumping Asperger's into High-Functioning Autism as of the DSM-V.

[ChairmanPoo]

there were motor anomalies too, and some others. Don't recall the details, and don't have the book around, so I can't produce the list

[Vector]

there were motor anomalies too, and some others. Don't recall the details, and don't have the book around, so I can't produce the list

Hrm...

Spoiler: Compare and Contrast (click to show/hide)

(I) A total of six (or more) items from (A), (B), and (C), with at least two from (A), and one each from (B) and (C)
(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:
(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play
(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder

(I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
(II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(B) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

(III) The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)

(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.

(VI) Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.

Yup, you're right.  Thanks for calling me on that.

[rawr359]

Thanks guys! I thought I knew, and I was right, but I would never want to make an ass of myself so I had to check. I knew a guy with Asperger's in junior high. In fact, we had an autistic kid, a kid with ass burgers, and a girl who was socially behind by two years from having a coma. They all went to regular classes, and only the kid with Asperger's had any sort of help, and he was just tutored.

[The Doctor]

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Ass burgers?

[Blargityblarg]

A derogatory term for aspergers, I think used more often for the people who claim to have it to avoid having to be reasonable people.

[Vector]

A derogatory term for aspergers, I think used more often for the people who claim to have it to avoid having to be reasonable people.

Dunno, I've accidentally said "ass burgers" plenty of times myself.  It's pretty easy to slip out by accident if you're not being really careful.

Is the usage really solely derogatory?

[Blargityblarg]

How could calling someone an ass burger not be derogatory? It boggles the mind.