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Re: This Women Screwed Me Over
« Reply #165 on: November 08, 2010, 12:00:06 pm »

Please stop saying moan.

I have a dirty enough mind as it is ;3;

It's a perfectly fine word.
You better get used to hearing it.

I doubt he'll be hearing much moaning at all.

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« Reply #166 on: November 08, 2010, 03:37:37 pm »

So you're appealing to us, to be more mindful about what we say and to whom, am I getting this right?
If yes, then alright, message received.

Yes, that's it :3

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« Reply #167 on: November 09, 2010, 07:05:37 am »

Generalizations? I don't think you realize just how anti-woman just about everyone on earth is. I can't really name any man from the top of my head that doesn't seem to think that we are rather superior to women in every way imaginable. Some are just lying through their teeth about the way they really feel. You may have convinced yourself that you're pretty fine when it comes to equality, but in reality, if you look very critically, you too will see that you're just as bad as it gets.
This is an incredibly ignorant and harmful way of thinking.
It's still true, though. When you divide people into two groups according to some trait, everyone will think that their own group is superior for no objective reason. In this example it's gender, but you'll get the same with hair colour, body type, political views, any sort of personality trait or even something as trivial as musical preferences.
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« Reply #168 on: November 09, 2010, 08:28:53 am »

It's also good to remember that most people do not act on their prejudices consciously but instead have it ingrained in their habits and do without thinking about it. That's what's so horrible about modern society, everyone thinks they're nice to women/minorities/other groups because they don't actively discriminate, but at the same time nobody realy acts against passive discrimination.
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« Reply #169 on: November 09, 2010, 09:02:53 am »

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« Reply #170 on: November 09, 2010, 02:22:01 pm »

Generalizations? I don't think you realize just how anti-woman just about everyone on earth is. I can't really name any man from the top of my head that doesn't seem to think that we are rather superior to women in every way imaginable. Some are just lying through their teeth about the way they really feel. You may have convinced yourself that you're pretty fine when it comes to equality, but in reality, if you look very critically, you too will see that you're just as bad as it gets.
This is an incredibly ignorant and harmful way of thinking.
It's still true, though. When you divide people into two groups according to some trait, everyone will think that their own group is superior for no objective reason. In this example it's gender, but you'll get the same with hair colour, body type, political views, any sort of personality trait or even something as trivial as musical preferences.

It's not "still true". Did you even read the rest of my post? I agreed that everyone has some level of prejudice regarding a number of different things, but there's a huge difference between that and "you're just as bad as it gets no matter who you are".

Also: How can a way of thinking be both ignorant and true?
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Re: This Women Screwed Me Over
« Reply #171 on: November 09, 2010, 02:57:00 pm »

Also: How can a way of thinking be both ignorant and true?

Religion? Just random interjection here. It could be true, but the level of ignorance people have taken it to (mostly as a way to control people in a way they see fit) isn't exactly fitting for the original message.

Bleeding heart liberals are, in some form, true, but ultimately misguided as well. You can't save everyone, you can't put everyone in prison, you can't NOT resort to the same tactics that enemies use on our own troops; all is fair in war, but we have people who decide they think they know better or that we're "morally superior" to other people. I would like to think that we're "better" than the "enemy" we have made because we don't use such tactics, but at least I acknowledge their effectiveness during war, where hundreds could be saved by the actions of a few.
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« Reply #172 on: November 09, 2010, 03:28:21 pm »

Cool, someone decided to completely derail this into a rant about why it's okay to torture during wartime. That's super helpful and relevant.
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« Reply #173 on: November 09, 2010, 03:33:18 pm »

Astral; I'm pretty sure that matter can't just be laid aside like that. Retaining moral high ground over the death of troops or vice-versa is a much more trickier question. It's a question about greater good or dirty efficiency.
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« Reply #174 on: November 09, 2010, 03:33:34 pm »

Oh yeah, like the rant was perfectly on track with nothing but constructive advice about relationships before.
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« Reply #175 on: November 09, 2010, 03:49:07 pm »

Oh yeah, like the rant was perfectly on track with nothing but constructive advice about relationships before.

Given that we're talking about heterosexual relationships, which tend to include women, some of which may have strong opinions about being women and what that means:

Yes.
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Re: This Women Screwed Me Over
« Reply #176 on: November 09, 2010, 03:51:01 pm »

Some POWs are women ;D
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« Reply #177 on: November 09, 2010, 03:54:49 pm »

Some heterosexual realtionship are torturous.
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« Reply #178 on: November 09, 2010, 03:59:20 pm »

Some heterosexual relationships save the lives of hundreds of people.
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« Reply #179 on: November 09, 2010, 04:08:10 pm »

And some should be tried in Hague.
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