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OrionKale

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Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« on: November 04, 2010, 09:40:08 pm »

I recently decided to try out .16, and just set up an atom smasher. One tile, blocked by a lock door.

I'm unsure why this isn't working, did atom smashing get fixed in this new build ?
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 09:48:25 pm »

Need more info on your set-up. There are too many things you might be doing wrong; they should work.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 09:55:31 pm »

Okay, the 'should work' is what I needed to know.

Right now, I have a 1 tile long hallway leading to a drawbride like so:  WWWW
                                                                                             WOD__
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W = Wall
O = Drawbridge
D = Door (Locked)

I have a lever hooked up to the bridge, and have it set to pull on repeat.

Items were placed on a dump zone while the bridge was in the up position, then the door was locked.

Thanks for your help. <3
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 09:57:34 pm »

Are you sure you made a raising bridge and not a retracting bridge?  Only raising bridges atomsmash things.  Also, with a single-tile bridge, you want to dump items on it when the bridge is in the lowered position.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 10:07:12 pm »

Thank you, it was set to retracting.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 05:57:47 am »

I thought that bridges needed to be 2x1 to work as atom smashers.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 07:30:20 am »

I've never made a 1x1 bridge at all.  I can't see how that should work.  Where would you put the stuff when it's in the raised-and-acting-like-a-wall position?  How would the lowered bridge differ from the raise bridge -- would it simply act as a road instead of a wall?  Where would the smashing part take place?

I've successfully used 2x1 bridges for atom-smashing.  It works fine.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 07:48:26 am »

A 1X1 raising bridge basically acts like a floor when lowered, and a wall when raised.  To crush stuff you drop it on the bridge when lowered, then raise it.  Raising drawbridges smash anything on the tiles that turn into a wall when they raise.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 01:54:30 pm »

I'm starting to wonder why I build flood gates when an atom smashing door would be so much more fun...
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 03:00:17 pm »

A 1X1 raising bridge basically acts like a floor when lowered, and a wall when raised.  To crush stuff you drop it on the bridge when lowered, then raise it.  Raising drawbridges smash anything on the tiles that turn into a wall when they raise.

The problem with 1x1 raising bridges is that you can never tell if they are raised or lowered except indirectly, through interactions with items and pathfinding.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 03:18:39 pm »

I'm starting to wonder why I build flood gates when an atom smashing door would be so much more fun...

There is no purpose served by a floodgate that a drawbridge doesn't do just as well, and it's indestructible when raised.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 03:27:22 pm »

I'm fairly certain that [BUILDING_DESTROYER] can still break a raised drawbridge wall. Only -[C] constructions are safe from that.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 03:55:30 pm »

I'm fairly certain that [BUILDING_DESTROYER] can still break a raised drawbridge wall. Only -[C] constructions are safe from that.
I have used raised single-tile drawbridges to hold building destroyers at bay in many fortresses.  They seem to be safe to me.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 03:16:18 pm »

I'm fairly certain that [BUILDING_DESTROYER] can still break a raised drawbridge wall. Only -[C] constructions are safe from that.
I have used raised single-tile drawbridges to hold building destroyers at bay in many fortresses.  They seem to be safe to me.
I'm fairly certain that a raised bridge is invulnerable, but the mechanisms "inside" of it can be damaged/destroyed.
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Re: Atom Smashing in .16 ?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 04:36:21 pm »

Raised drawbridges function exactly as walls do. They cannot be destroyed. I've never heard of the mechanism being damaged, even with magma I've never had a problem.
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