All riiiight, I'm kinda up to date with events.
First of all, about Mish (and then me) being Exterminator - Mish's last post was three days before the end of Day 2, so it would make sense for actual exterminator NOT to kill anyone and claim that lack of kill was due to Mish's absence (yes, I know about WIFOM it implies but isn't it better for Exterminator not to kill anyone for one night at the cost of safety from lynching and ability to kill the next one when odds are in his favor). Second, Zathras has pretty much proved himself a townie (if I'm wrong and missed some vital piece of information, please correct me), so anyone trying to frame him isn't likely to be pro-town.
If I understand the situation correctly, Zathras has proven himself to be a psychic warden, but not necessarily town.
That being said, webadict has pointed that his suspicions swing between him and me, so I would say he must be the one who framed Mish if my first guess is correct.
Sorry for pretty weak accusations, but I'll improve them once I learn about the current state of affairs first-hand.
P.S:
So, webadict posted right before me:
And I came up with two possibilities: Guardian protect or Mish unavailable. The third option (not choosing to kill) has no more reason to be explored, mostly because nothing anyone would do would make any sense. Even for WIFOM. And nobody seems crazy enough to try it.
That seems to fit with my guess - he framed Mish and then directly declared that the possibility of him not killing anyone is impossible, thus lifting suspicions from himself.
Wait,
so it would make sense for actual exterminator NOT to kill anyone and claim that lack of kill was due to Mish's absence (yes, I know about WIFOM it implies but isn't it better for Exterminator not to kill anyone for one night at the cost of safety from lynching and ability to kill the next one when odds are in his favor).
I dunno. You're voting Web mostly because his theory contradicts your theory. Except his theory tries to avoid WIFOM, where your theory jumps right in with it. I think I like the theory with less WIFOM, myself.
@Kamina:
So, being logical doesn't work with you. Well then, where did you get the whole idea that I am Exterminator with the exception of coincidental absence of Mish in the night? If you call logic WIFOM, there's no way to prove I'm not exterminator, SS or a dinosaur for that matter. You are just hellbent on lynching me, which confirms my earlier suspicions on you being in team with webadict (similar choice of targets, similar reasoning behind votes, etc.).
You actually gave an argument as to why Web could be scum, and then you switch your vote to Kamina because he's "illogical"? And what were these "earlier suspicions"? I didn't see anything in your posts about Kamina until now. This just looks like garbage OMGUS.
Also, you unvoted webadict right after you saw me voting for him. Something tells me that you don't actually want him lynched, you just show off that you voted for him and it was just a coincidence that you happened to be in minority...
His unvote of Web does not correspond with your vote of Web; it corresponds with you acting scummy.
Wait-wait-wait, WHAT?
First of all, why isn't anybody even considering the possibility of exterminator not killing anyone, thus framing Mish?
Second, my vote on webadict was not based on OMGUS but instead on the facts I gathered - for all I know, Web is either the exterminator, or a dopp who wishes to pull a vote on a new player who probably won't put much of a defense because of not being familiar with the game.
Third, as I said, I suspect a team of Web-Karmina (the reasons being similar choice of targets, similar reasoning behind votes and the second immediatly changing his vote to re-balance the scales of voting). Name one reason for two people not familiar with each other have such similarities.
1. Probably because everybody in this game would like to see the Exterminator dead. The Exterminator is sought by town and dopp alike, so waiting around and not killing anyone is a pretty bad idea.
2. Your vote on Webadict was indeed not OMGUS. Your vote on Kamina was very OMGUS.
3. Because if you show two different people a blue duck, they're going to say it's a blue duck.
I'm going
Dariush for now, then.
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Now, to address earlier concerns.
Janus:
Argembarger said he wanted to be treated like everybody else when replaced in. There's no reason to give him slack if he doesn't want any.
I had for gotten that. I still think that Argembarger had the right idea and Toaster the wrong for the original point though. Even within the original first extension, the vote has already changed quite a bit. It wasn't something that would cause problems back then.
I still found it odd that he mentioned the tiebreaker vote, then completely ignored the two people tied. I don't think it was terribly scummy- probably more lazy than anything. His last post was definitely scummier, though.
First off, thank you for respecting my wishes to not give me slack because I'm new. I'm having a pretty good time in the Mafia, and I'm a little upset that I never discovered Mafia earlier in my life. I may be new at Mafia, but I'm not new at arguing or debating, so if I show logical errors or what not, by all means, hound me for them.
Now, I will confess, those posts were extremely lazy that I made. I was distracted with my RL studies and pressed for time, but I went ahead and posted anyway, and now it's coming back to bite me.
To be honest, I don't have much of anything to say about Leafsnail. I'm not all that sure why I FoS'd him. If I had reasons to suspect him then, I don't remember what they were, which probably means they weren't very good ones. Maybe I confused him with someone else, somehow. Likely I was just tired and burnt out.
I should just start keeping physical notes about everyone somewhere, keeping track of all these shenanigans in my head is kind of pointlessly difficult. Sometimes it's like trying to tell a friend about what's going on in Homestuck. I end up confusing myself and having to reread things several times before I post.
As for Ottofar, my main concern right now is that he is focused on Kamina and doesn't seem to have anything to say about the other events at hand. Kamina is, well, kind of an easy target, as I'm sure Kamina would (and has!) freely admitted to. There's nothing really odd about suspecting Kamina, hell, I've been keeping my eye on him too, but to do only that and not have anything to say about anything else going on, well, that could either be Town being really useless, or Dopp not wanting to get caught in a lie.
MysteriousBluePuppet, it's great that you're back and active and posting and everything, but you're coming off as such a cloudcuckoolander to me. I'm having trouble following your points. I'll reread them and see if I can do better, but right now, I don't know what or what not to think about you at all.
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