A two member Exterminator team explains all discrepancies.
Yes, now you have two people conniving together to bring alive this vision of yours. That's not a stretch at all over the simpler explanation, is it? And if it were true, lynching me doesn't stop the exterminator NK, does it?
Now it might. Since it is possible for you to be the Exterminator now you should be lynched as it is the quicker road to reducing the number of night kills.
And yes, a two member Exterminator team is a completely valid hypothesis at this point. And it seems to be supported by the fact that Mr.Person is really trying to not get you lynched. Now why is he doing that?
Flavor discrepancies because of J-EXE is a bullshit reason to ignore Zathras being lying scum. I mean, apparently J-EXE had the wherewithal to include chains on the sending end. Why not the receiving? Meph wouldn't have let inaccurate flavor get in his game.
You assume too much. Pandar didn't mention chains in his post, but why would he? He was on the defending end of the accusation, yes? It would be in his benefit to be as terse as possible. On the other side, I didn't mention them at first; to be honest, I didn't pay close attention to the flavour, all I retained from that moment three days ago was "roleblock success".
My not immediately remembering the specifics of the flavour is the cornerstone of your case, yes? This in a game variant I play for the first time, and at a time when I had trouble remembering the names of the players... Is this really what you are using to mark me as "guaranteed" liar?
If you're suggesting that Pandarsenic conveniently ignored descriptions of chains in how he described the flavor perhaps you should go give him crap about it instead of offering it as a hypothetical explanation. Even if he's a dopp, I don't think he lied.
And you not remembering the specifics, or so you claim, is not the cornerstone, it's just powerful supporting evidence. You not knowing the flavor of your role is pretty good evidence that you're fakeclaiming. If, after I told you the Psychic Warden flavor includes chains, you had immediately mentioned that your flavor
had included the chains instead of doing your [citation needed] thing, I would be more inclined to believe you. Buuuuuuuuuuut you didn't. Bad move, bro. Bad move.
You're defending Zathras, who's quite clearly a lying fakeclaimer, and you're trying to deflect suspicion and votes onto Pandarsenic, just the same as Zathras. You are Zathras' partner in the Exterminator team.
You are fulfilling the same for Pandar (speaking of fakeclaimers), trying to deflect suspicion and votes from him to me. Using your argument, we must deduce you are Pandar's scumbuddy, yes? Your case against me hinges on your presumption that I lied about flavour, and even if I did, I wouldn't have a NK. The case against Pandar is much more solid: he has admitted he was blocked the night Dopps didn't kill, on top of his otherwise scummy play. Isn't lynching a dopp a better thing for town than a non-NK alien of whatever flavour you have me pegged as? Why are you defending Pandar so much?
It's one thing to
utterly destroy your fakeclaim. It's another to speculate scenarios where you aren't an alien. I'm doing the former. Mr.Person is doing the latter. You are caught in an obvious lie and Mr.Person is doing his darnedest to see to it that you don't get lynched and Pandarsenic does. I couldn't care less what happens to Pandarsenic. Let the dopp hang.
Now that Meph has cleared up that the Exterminator can use a Stun Orb and the night kill you are becoming a much more favorable lynch.
So you think Pand is a Dopp, but we should lynch Zathras because he's an Exterminator? First off, why would an Exterminator take a fucking Stun Orb? This isn't even a "Shield + Big Tech ONLY" problem, this is more like why would anyone take a Stun Orb instead of a Stun Bomb? There isn't even any WIFOM in it, it's just stupid. Second off, lynching the Dopp is more important than the Exterminator. The Exterminator kills are likely to eventually hit a Dopp or two.
Counting on crossfire is stupid. If Zathras is a likely Exterminator he should be lynched now to give us time. And WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM about the Stun Orb. If you and Zathras have a bazillion tech choices because he's an Exterminator and you're an Operative or the other way around, why not get the Stun Orb? It would help against things like PWVs.
But ok, he's an Operative. Fine. We should still lynch the Dopp over an Op. The Op is even less important than the Dopp. Now I'm not saying with 100% certainty that Zathras isn't an Op, but I am saying it's more important to hit a Dopp than an Op. I find Pand's lurking combined with the claim to be enough to convince me he's a Dopp. That means I'm going to lynch him. Lynching off Zathras (which I am currently against, in case it sounds like I'm waffling) is irrelevant next to lynching the most likely Dopp player in the game.
I still say that Zathras is town, but we'll know soon enough. Either he blocks someone else or he doesn't. If he's an Op, he won't be able to block more than twice. We lynch him either Day 3 or Day 4. The reason I'm not worried about this at all is simply that the information will become available no matter what. I could worry and stress and whatever, but the fact remains that he'll either role-confirm himself or die. So why bother? And if he is an alien, he's a complete idiot.
This is all completely irrelevant now that Zathras can use both the Stun Orb and a nightkill. If it was a certainty that Zathras could not be the Exterminator then I would agree with you that a Pandarsenic lynch would be better. But that is not longer the case.
And how far you're going out of your way to make sure he doesn't get lynched is really making me think that he's the Exterminator and that you're the Operative. Don't want your night kill disappearing so easily I see.
In any case, Jim, what makes you so sure Zathras is an alien and why should we bypass a Dopp to lynch said alien?
I seriously can't believe you asked me this.
Anyways, in short, Janus was driving the policy lynch, but it didn't work out. He wouldn't back off, because someone could've said he just wanted to get a free lynch. Then he gets SHAD0W and Cript to vote for, and argues with Cript about the amount of the Org-concerning posts. Also, he was too friendly with Kamina, which is also suspicious.
This one, I mean.
Linking all of JTF's posts, making a single comment about them, and then quoting yourself is not really a sufficient scum hunting contribution.
I
despise it when people look like they're trying to do a lot of work and then say nothing.
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