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Ocean Waves and fps
« on: October 29, 2010, 01:44:56 am »

Does anyone know a way to turn off ocean waves? I embarked on the most amazing beach map and right now the waves aren't much of a problem, but soon the foaming effects will probably hamstring my frame rate.

My temporary solution so far is to create a sea wall along the entire coastline, but the waves crashing on the walls still generates a misting effect. 
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 01:47:53 am »

There is no way to turn off ocean waves, last time I checked, sorry.

It will effect your FPS, but if you keep your fort smallish, it won't make that much of a difference.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 01:53:55 am »

The embark size was 3x3, but im not feeling optimistic about it. The map is also a Haunted and Untamed Wilds so i'm expecting lots of fun.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 02:18:40 am »

shouldnt a huge seawall help? Supposedly there's be no fps loss if they cant reach the shore.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 03:14:42 am »

shouldnt a huge seawall help? Supposedly there's be no fps loss if they cant reach the shore.
They pass through walls
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 06:33:38 am »

Solution 1: get a better computer (not so dwarfy).
Solution 2: cast obsidian in place of the water (very dwarfy).
Solution 3: drain the ocean, then wall it off (extremely dwarfy).
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 06:38:25 am »

Solution 3 would probably make the FPS issue worse, if anything. I like #2.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 10:32:52 am »

Solution 3 would probably make the FPS issue worse, if anything. I like #2.

The one time I pierced the ocean in my fort, it murdered my FPS. Water constantly flowing in and subsequently draining off the map is a massive drain on FPS. It got to the point hwere I actually cheated to stop the flow of water, something I would normally never do.

So while draining the entire ocean might boost your FPS, it would take so long to do that you might as well not even bother.

On-Topic: I always play ocean forts, and I have never noticed ocean waves having a significant effect on my FPS. There's no way to stop them anyways. Waves pass right through solid walls. I don't think the waves actually "exist" until they hit the shore, since random objects and Dwarves being hit by waves in the middle of the ocean has had no effect.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 11:34:05 am »

I'm surprised that no-one has suggested the most obvious solution yet known to dwarven science: MAGMA. Cover the sea with magma.
End of problems.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 11:40:38 am »

That was suggested two posts ago.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2010, 01:00:33 pm »

Are we sure waves pass through walls? I've had mixed results; sometimes a wall is clearing blocking a wave (like the time when I put a magma moat next to the shore and then realized I needed to build a wall if I wasn't creating a obsidian farm - and it worked!) other times I've had incredible trouble stopping them. I've always assumed waves had some sort of "height" value that they would pass over walls below that threshhold, but maybe I'm just making stuff up.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 11:50:52 pm »

revisiting an old thread.

Walls do stop the waves somewhat, I've constructed a seawall surrounding the entire shoreline (except for the edge of map no-build zone). The thing is when the waves hit the seawall they still make a mist-like "sea foam" animation. One other annoying thing about the waves is that the water push around objects laying on the beach.

I'm just going to learn to live with it.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 01:12:12 am »

I'm surprised that no-one has suggested the most obvious solution yet known to dwarven science: MAGMA. Cover the sea with magma.
End of problems.

Hmm... just had a thought for a megaproject (that I'll never do): Switch the places of the magma sea and the ocean!
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 01:46:06 am »

except for the edge of map no-build zone
Bridge go onto the edge and act like wall when raised.
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Re: Ocean Waves and fps
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 03:52:42 am »

Waves have a very, very, very minor effect on FPS. That hoary marmot skittling around outside your fortress probably drains more processing power than waves. Since waves don't involve either pathfinding or fluid dynamics, their effect is barely noticeable.
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