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[mainiac]

Spoiler: from NSDAP 25 point program: (click to show/hide)

1-8 are basically hardcore nationalist ideas, mostly concerning race, immigration and the right to be called a citizen.

9.All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
10.The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:
11.Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
12.In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13.We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14.We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15.We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16.We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
17.We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
18.We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
19.We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
20.The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
21.The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22-24 are concerning army issues and press-controll

25.For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
(after wikipedia)

In the light of the definition provided at the top of this post, their program seems pretty socialistic to me.

The socialist items of this list is nothing more then a list of things they claimed to support but never pursued.  They kept the industry in private hands.  They didn't make citizens equal before the law.  They sure as hell didn't divide the profits from industry or the warehouses equally among all parties.

NEWSFLASH: THE NAZI'S LIED

[Il Palazzo]

NEWSFLASH: THE NAZI'S LIED

Yes. And Soviets lied when they took up the communist ideology - the real communism would create an utopia on Earth. And USA lied when they brandished their capitalism, the true capitalism would create an utopia as well, and so on.
It's not as much about outward lying because WERE EVUL, rather than about the power and the powerful corrupting whatever ideals the politicians might've had, which is true for each and every place and time there ever was.

And no, realising that the Nazi party was a socialist one does not discredit socialism as an ideology. Anybody who's using that argument is doing the same old reductio ad Hitlerum routine, which we've all learned to berate or ignore.

[mainiac]

If the Nazi's are socialist, then the Tea Party is socialist.  The Tea party has a lot more extreme socialist positions (Nobody can touch Social Security, ever!) then the Nazi's ever did.

[DJ]

Yes, but would a Tea Party general fast just because his soldiers are low on food? That's a litmus test for socialism if there ever was one, and you'd be surprised how many great generals were actually commies in disguise, millennia before Marx.

[Dwarf]

Being socialist does not a communist make?

Also, this is kinda offtopic… but why is everybody typing Nazi's with an apostrophe?

[Earthquake Damage]

Also, this is kinda offtopic… but why is everybody typing Nazi's with an apostrophe?

Clearly apostrophe's are used to pluralize noun's in the English language.  This is especially true of acronym's and number's.

[Il Palazzo]

Also, this is kinda offtopic… but why is everybody typing Nazi's with an apostrophe?

Don't generalize. The apostrophe should be reserved for the possesive clause.

Clearly apostrophe's are used to pluralize noun's in the English language.  This is especially true of acronym's and number's.

I'm pretty sure this is not what I was taught in my English classes.

[Leafsnail]

Yes, but would a Tea Party general fast just because his soldiers are low on food? That's a litmus test for socialism if there ever was one, and you'd be surprised how many great generals were actually commies in disguise, millennia before Marx.

Again, solidarity with a unit is not socialism.  Someone who'd fast in order to help their children isn't necessarily a socialist.

And I think it's beause "Nazis" looks a bit weird.  Since it's an acronym, it should really be NAZIs, but eh.

[Dwarf]

I think that technically, it is not an acronym, but I might also be wrong.

[Leafsnail]

Uh, yeah, oops.  The initials are NSDAP, and Nazi is from the first two syllables.

Oh well.

[Nikov]

DJ, if you're accusing me of being a closet nazi in sincerity, kindly reaffirm your claim. Otherwise, I demand an apology.

[DJ]

Wait, this is a serious thread? I kinda got lost on the part where a general's solidarity with his troops makes him a socialist rather than a commander who understands morale.

[Earthquake Damage]

DJ, if you're accusing me of being a closet nazi in sincerity, kindly reaffirm your claim. Otherwise, I demand an apology.

Obvious sarcasm is obvious.  Nikov fails at internet.

[ChairmanPoo]

You know you wouldn't be getting these protests if you didn't openly fantasize with killing people wjo disagree with you with flamethrowing nazi tanks, do you...

[Nikov]

Yes, and I got a warning for that little jest. So I'm sure DJ is happy to explain the joke since I'm giving him the chance.