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[Nikov]

If you're Macedonian, I salute you for your patriotic sentiment. Otherwise, don't be stupid.

[ChairmanPoo]

You mean this?

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[RedKing]

I'm not saying they don't have a demographic problem. I'm saying that it's not the Gray Armageddon that some are predicting.

There's actually a good book that came out recently, Shock of Gray, that discusses how this is pretty much a worldwide phenomenon, and will be self-correcting in a few generations.

[Auto Slaughter]

Wow, Nikov, after your fighty "the person posting this isn't going to defend the article" thing you really had nothin', didn't you?  Nothin' at all except some random China trivia.  No wonder you wanted to avoid discussing the post, you couldn't come up with any criticisms of any substance.  Weak sauce, man.  So much for thinking for yourself.

[Nikov]

Yeah, sure. Auto, if you want to call everyone back on track, feel free.

Redking, I don't think the oncoming demographic crunch is an civilization-crushing scenario by any means, but I do think a lot of the outdated institutions like national pensions or a 65 retirement age is going to buckle under financial stress. Now we've seen riots in France just last week against students having to work two more years, and proposed government cuts in Greece prompted riots as well. I just have a hard time believing the status-quo can muddle through this phenomenon, even if it does self-correct in thirty or fifty years.

[Auto Slaughter]

Chickened out again.  It's history repeating itself. ("That's so second-page-of-this-thread, and we're totally on the fifth page."  Come on, really?)

But sure, if you don't feel up to it I wouldn't want you to strain anything.  But as you said yourself - on page four even, so contemporary! - "ignoring it won't improve your ability to deal".

[Bauglir]

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[Nikov]

I am beginning to feel you are attempting to incite me into an arguement I do not desire, and hope to reconcile with you that such is not the case.

FakeEdit: Thanks Baughlir. To blow your mind further, crunch some figures and come up with what percent the middle third must be taxed to pay for the top third's retirement. Then pay for the bottom third's education. You begin to see my point of view.

[Auto Slaughter]

You did all the inciting to argument Nikov, you were the one who challenged me to defend my post - you just couldn't follow through with anything to defend against.  Like I said, don't trouble yourself; let it worry you no more.  You failed at trolling, that can be the end of it.

[smigenboger]

Looks like China's going to be a great place if you're born with 'The Gay', unless you happen to be female, then you've got some slim pickin's.

If China goes to war like all the video games love to predict, they could pre-emptively pull out of a future recession.

Fake-edit: Nikov will never back down, the only way to stop debating is to say he's right or agree to disagree without saying you are agreeing to disagree. That's not a bad thing, it's just the way it is.

[Leafsnail]

Welll... China could try and get lots of immigrants in, I guess.  There are plenty of countries with a surplus of young people.

[Nikov]

Defend against me? No. Defend against Shade-O. You wouldn't defend the ad against Shade-O and it wasn't going to defend itself, so Shade-O was asking questions to blank space.

Why did you assume I was asking you to defend it against me? I wasn't arguing it. I never challenged you to defend it. I simply said you weren't.

I'm glad we're at least clarifying this, although I'd appreciate if you didn't call me a troll.

[Urist Imiknorris]

WE MUST DEFEND AN ADVERTISEMENT FROM THOSE WHO WOULD MEAN IT HARM. EVEN IF THEY LEFT HALF A THREAD AGO.

I hate the ad and it signifies everything that is wrong with America today.

[Nikov]

Which is why I wouldn't defend it! Its a stupid congressional race ad slapped out for shock factor right before the polls! I have no interest in it, Auto clearly disagrees with it, and Shade disagrees with it!

That's why I'm not arguing it!

*has seizure*

[Heron TSG]

Welll... China could try and get lots of immigrants in, I guess.  There are plenty of countries with a surplus of young people.

Usually enterprising young people try to find a place where minimum-wage jobs are things like serving burgers, not places where 'minimum wage' is a few pennies in return for wading into vats of heavy metals (including mercury) to retrieve chunks of gold out of scrapped electronics.