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[Raziel_Blaze]

t seems every time I manually save it acts like it does. I then close the program (to copy back up in separate file). Then when I come back I can only load from the last seasons load. I looked in my current file after saving and it always seems empty(shouldn't this be my last manual save file).

[Lormax]

Double check available hard drive space?

[Raziel_Blaze]

78.3 Gigs free

[krenshala]

And just to verify the obvious ...  you're looking in the data/save directory for regionX (instead of regionX-winNNN), right?

(where X in teh region number and NNN is the year).

[Raziel_Blaze]

C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\current            Yes

[Rexfelum]

C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\current            Yes

That is the wrong one.  I presume that "current" is just a work folder for whatever Dwarf Fortress needs to run on the present session.  Actual save files go here:

And just to verify the obvious ...  you're looking in the data/save directory for regionX (instead of regionX-winNNN), right?

(where X in teh region number and NNN is the year).

The "region" folders are the saves.  The most recently-modified (and probably largest) one will be the one you manually saved.  It will probably be called "region1" or such, as mentioned by krenshala.

--Rexfelum

[Raziel_Blaze]

Yes, I do have one but they are only made when a season changes and not when I save.

[Lormax]

It doesn't make a "new" save when you save.  It saves to the region folder.  It makes new saves when it autosaves

[Raziel_Blaze]

It does not make a new folder.

[Raziel_Blaze]

And when I reload it it is from the seasons save.

[Quietust]

It does not make a new folder.

New folders only get created during seasonal autosaves with backups (and you should never EVER load those) - when you choose "Save game", it overwrites whatever game you originally loaded (i.e. deletes it and then replaces it with what you just saved).

The "current" folder will always be empty immediately after you save your game - it serves only as temporary storage for files that have been modified since you last saved (generally whenever caravans arrive or leave).

[Raziel_Blaze]

So it happened 2 more times to me. Last time was last night, I had the season roll over, then I did a trading with a caravan, got ambushed, fended it off, cleaned up after the battle, re-organized my military, saved and went to bed. Today I opened up my last save and it was all the way back at my seasons save. (I'm using LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2] with Stonesense_Slate_2.2, soundSense_20_98, and DwarfTherapist v0.6.4) Could any of these be messing up when I manually save because I do know these utilities access DF memory.

[Ephemeriis]

You should have several folders listed in here...

C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\current\
C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\region1\
C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\region1-sum2010\
C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\region1-aut2010\
C:\Users\Ian\My Games\DF\LazyNewbPack[0.31.16][V5.2]\Dwarf Fortress 31.16\data\save\region1-win2010\

...etc

That \current\ folder is useless.  I'm not sure what DF uses it for, but you can't use it for anything.  It's just there to take up space as far as you're concerned.

The \region1\ folder is the current save.  That's what you get when you choose "Save Game" from the menu.  Your old saved game is overwritten.

The various \region1-SEASnnnn\ folders are generated by the seasonal autosave.  You get one every season.  They're tagged with the SEASON and the year.  They'll pile up eventually.  They're fairly large.  It's generally a good idea to clean some of these out after a while.

If you want to make a backup of your current game, perhaps before embarking on a crazy megaproject with great potential for disaster, you need to make a copy of the \region1\ folder.  But not while you're in a live game, because nothing is saved in there.

So, what you need to do is...

• Bring up the ESC menu and choose "Save Game".  Let it save.  You'll eventually be kicked out to the main menu, with an option to "Continue Playing".
• Navigate to your \data\save\ directory and make a copy of the \region1\ folder.  Feel free to name it something new.  DF doesn't care.
• Go back into DF and "Continue Playing".  You should see your new folder in there, in addition to whatever was there before.

Now, whatever one you open becomes the new "current" game.  And when you "Save Game" it will be overwritten.  And you'll get seasonal saves with the season and year appended to it.

So if I make a copy of \region1\ and call it \test\...  Then "Continue Playing" and load \test\...  Then "Save Game"...  That old \test\ gets overwritten with the current game, and \region1\ is left alone.

If I make a copy of \region1\ and call it \test\...  Then keep playing for long enough to get a seasonal autosave...  I'll get \test-aut2010\...  And if I "Save Game" my \test\ save is overwritten with the current game, \region1\ is left alone, and I've still got my \test-aut2010\ autosave.

If I load up \test-aut2010\ and start playing in it, and then "Save Game", that \test-aut2010\ gets overwritten with the current game.

If I load up \test-aut2010\ and play long enough to get a seasonal autosave I'll get \test-aut2010-win2010\...  And if I "Save Game" that original \test-aut2010\ will get overwritten with the current game.

[Uzu Bash]

Clarify what you mean by 'manually save'...what exactly do you do? Shut down from within the game, or copy folders directly?

Also, expect 'current' to empty out every time you shut down. It's not intended to be a permanent save.

[Raziel_Blaze]

Thank you for the reply, I will try this out